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>> “free speech” Does not belong in quotes.

by osigurdson 2y ago

llm_trw 2y ago
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- twixfel 2y ago
  What's that go to do with online dating and Strava?
  - llm_trw 2y ago
    I don't know, ask the guardian why they had to take a swipe at free speech in an article about dating.
    - twixfel 2y ago
      I took it as a swipe at Elon Musk and Twitter rather than free speech.
      - llm_trw 2y ago
        Taking a swipe at Musk in an article about dating isn't any less weird.
        twixfel 2y ago
        In an article about the merits of different social networks, it seems perfectly reasonable to me to mention and even criticise Twitter, and Twitter's owner, Elon Musk. You may disagree with it, but it's not unreasonable nor "weird".
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ta1243 2y ago
Musk has a selective view of what free speech means. His view of free speech is different to the majority of people reading that article, seems reasonable to put quotes around it.
- Beijinger 2y ago
  Is it? I always thought the uttermost definition of "Free speech" is that you have the right to have a stupid, ugly or wrong opinion? And as long as you don't violate any ToS (e.g. Hackernews, as a private enterprise or organization) or laws (kill XYZ type of people) you are within the rights of "free speech".
  - reducesuffering 2y ago
    Musk's version of "free speech" should be in quotations. Twitter was banning accounts, even Paul Graham's, for saying "This is the last straw. I give up. You can find a link to my new Mastodon profile on my site.”
  - ta1243 2y ago
    > I always thought the uttermost definition of "Free speech" is ... you don't violate any ToS or laws So a meaningless statement then. By that definition North Korea has free speech.
  - consteval 2y ago
    > stupid, ugly or wrong opinion You can only have a stupid, ugly or wrong opinion so long as Musk shares it. Luckily Musk is uniquely dumb, so that covers most awful takes you can have, perhaps giving the perception of free speech.
    - Beijinger 2y ago
      That is his right. It is his company. You don't have the right to free speech on another man's property. You have the right to be an antisemite. But just please not in my house, I may ask you to leave.

>> “free speech” Does not belong in quotes.

llm_trw 2y ago

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twixfel 2y ago
What's that go to do with online dating and Strava?
- llm_trw 2y ago
  I don't know, ask the guardian why they had to take a swipe at free speech in an article about dating.
  - twixfel 2y ago
    I took it as a swipe at Elon Musk and Twitter rather than free speech.
    - llm_trw 2y ago
      Taking a swipe at Musk in an article about dating isn't any less weird.
      - twixfel 2y ago
        In an article about the merits of different social networks, it seems perfectly reasonable to me to mention and even criticise Twitter, and Twitter's owner, Elon Musk. You may disagree with it, but it's not unreasonable nor "weird".

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ta1243 2y ago

Musk has a selective view of what free speech means. His view of free speech is different to the majority of people reading that article, seems reasonable to put quotes around it.

Beijinger 2y ago
Is it? I always thought the uttermost definition of "Free speech" is that you have the right to have a stupid, ugly or wrong opinion? And as long as you don't violate any ToS (e.g. Hackernews, as a private enterprise or organization) or laws (kill XYZ type of people) you are within the rights of "free speech".
- reducesuffering 2y ago
  Musk's version of "free speech" should be in quotations. Twitter was banning accounts, even Paul Graham's, for saying "This is the last straw. I give up. You can find a link to my new Mastodon profile on my site.”
- ta1243 2y ago
  > I always thought the uttermost definition of "Free speech" is ... you don't violate any ToS or laws So a meaningless statement then. By that definition North Korea has free speech.
- consteval 2y ago
  > stupid, ugly or wrong opinion You can only have a stupid, ugly or wrong opinion so long as Musk shares it. Luckily Musk is uniquely dumb, so that covers most awful takes you can have, perhaps giving the perception of free speech.
  - Beijinger 2y ago
    That is his right. It is his company. You don't have the right to free speech on another man's property. You have the right to be an antisemite. But just please not in my house, I may ask you to leave.