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Cruise ships have a huge ecological impact everywhere they go. They burn colossal amounts of fuel, they produce lots of toxic exhaust, sewage, etc. A lot of des
by jillesvangurp 2y ago
Cruise ships have a huge ecological impact everywhere they go. They burn colossal amounts of fuel, they produce lots of toxic exhaust, sewage, etc. A lot of destinations for these things don't exactly have a lot of regulations for any of this either.
Just flying to your destination and staying in some nice place is arguably both better for the environment and probably a lot more enjoyable depending on your tastes. Not that flying is particularly good for the environment of course. Or that enjoyable these days. But I wanted to put in context just how nasty cruise ships can be.
- raldi 2y agoThey produce sewage that would otherwise not have existed?
- JKCalhoun 2y agoI assume they mean that sewage at home is treated.
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- jillesvangurp 2y agoWe don't normally dump our sewage straight in the ocean.
- tharkun__ 2y agoNo, sometimes it goes directly into Lake Ontario and the river. Plans put in place by previous administrations over the years said that by 2038, waste water dumped into the lake would finally be as close to zero. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-storm-water-wastewater-management-program-1.5396886 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-storm-water-w...
- raldi 2y agoNor do cruise ships.
- jillesvangurp 2y agoActually they do. This is all well documented. There have been some failed attempts to change this. But dumping in international waters is cheaper and without (financial) consequences. They dump sewage hundreds of tons of sewage on a typical journey.
- consumer451 2y agoYears ago, Key West built enough extra sewage treatment capacity to process sewage from the many cruise ships which visit the city. There was a plan to require all ships to discharge and pay for treatment so that sewage was not dumped 12 miles off-shore, which is only 3 miles past the reef. Captains get a bonus for fuel savings, so they tend to dump as soon as it is legal. The cruise industry threatened to remove Key West from their list of stops, wrote some checks to the various non-profits, and the status quo was preserved. The cruise ship industry is an ecological disaster, by choice.
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- raldi 2y agoWhat do you think happens to land-based sewage?
- rcpt 2y agoIt's treated in huge facilities. We don't just flush it raw into the water
- raldi 2y agoNor do cruise ships.
- consumer451 2y agoI just looked it up, and it does appear that cruise ships now treat their black water instead of just macerating it like they used to. I would love to know: is that all cruise ships, in all areas?
- saagarjha 2y agoSure they do. Not every cruise ship does wastewater treatment.
- SoftTalker 2y agoSewage that would be treated, not pumped raw into the ocean.
- raldi 2y agoJust like on a cruise ship.
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- TacticalCoder 2y ago> Cruise ships have a huge ecological impact everywhere they go. The sheer size of these things is hard to comprehend. I'm on vacation at the fancy french riviera and the billionaire's superyachts, when on a bay next to a cruise ship, look like tiny miniature toys. It's just wild. The cruise ships are not just three to five times longer, they're also, way, way, way taller than the superyachts. You see a cruise ships and it screams "I'm here to destroy the environment". My wife wanted to try a vacation on a cruise ship but to me it's a big no-no.
- mrkandel 2y agoIt's a boat - is it really worse than flying?
- jesterson 2y agoArguably indeed. You have some support for your emotional claims or it is what it is - emotional claims?