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I don't get the obsession with "clean" UIs, nor how hiding everything and replacing it with tons of whitespace and nondescript icons can be "calming". It's ster

I don't get the obsession with "clean" UIs, nor how hiding everything and replacing it with tons of whitespace and nondescript icons can be "calming". It's sterile and unwelcoming like an empty house or unused workshop.

jampekka 2y ago
Clean and well thought out UI is like clean and well thought out plumbing. Just works, doesn't need fiddling and stays out of the way.
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- KETHERCORTEX 2y ago
  It isn't about GNOME apps. Their UI actually stands in the way and require fiddling. In GNOME Clocks: - You cannot set the name for a timer when creating iy. You need to set the time and start it first, then either pause and reset it or wait for completion. And only then the text field for timer's name appear. - Timer sound is just a single bell that's easy to miss when you are busy with something like cooking. No repeats, no additional dialogs or highlights. Just a single notification and timer resets. Nautilus (Files): - Does not focus a file/folder for keyboard navigation after entering a folder using keyboard navigation (arrow keys and Enter). Maybe I'm missing something,but that's my experience with resorting to mouse or pressing Tab. - "Open in Terminal" opens folders only in GNOME's default terminal. There's no way in GNOME Settings to set the default application for terminal either. GNOME Weather: - The width of hourly weather graph/chart is limited. Even if you have a big monitor and will maximize it, you will have to scroll horizontally to see the further than ~10 hours.
- consteval 2y ago
  Right, but UI is just the interface the user interfaces with to do stuff. Less buttons means you can do less stuff, necessarily. Nautilus (or gnome-files, whatever it's called now) can't do a quarter of the stuff Dolphin can. For some use cases and some users that's fine. For others... not so much. I mean, imagine if you took out 80% of the buttons in photoshop. Could a pro still edit a photo? Probably not. But the UI will be clean.
abenga 2y ago
If you like dense UIs with lots of options, you're better served using KDE or friends. I love that a less cluttered option exists, I don't understand why all DEs should behave the same.

jampekka 2y ago

Clean and well thought out UI is like clean and well thought out plumbing. Just works, doesn't need fiddling and stays out of the way.

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KETHERCORTEX 2y ago
It isn't about GNOME apps. Their UI actually stands in the way and require fiddling. In GNOME Clocks: - You cannot set the name for a timer when creating iy. You need to set the time and start it first, then either pause and reset it or wait for completion. And only then the text field for timer's name appear. - Timer sound is just a single bell that's easy to miss when you are busy with something like cooking. No repeats, no additional dialogs or highlights. Just a single notification and timer resets. Nautilus (Files): - Does not focus a file/folder for keyboard navigation after entering a folder using keyboard navigation (arrow keys and Enter). Maybe I'm missing something,but that's my experience with resorting to mouse or pressing Tab. - "Open in Terminal" opens folders only in GNOME's default terminal. There's no way in GNOME Settings to set the default application for terminal either. GNOME Weather: - The width of hourly weather graph/chart is limited. Even if you have a big monitor and will maximize it, you will have to scroll horizontally to see the further than ~10 hours.
consteval 2y ago
Right, but UI is just the interface the user interfaces with to do stuff. Less buttons means you can do less stuff, necessarily. Nautilus (or gnome-files, whatever it's called now) can't do a quarter of the stuff Dolphin can. For some use cases and some users that's fine. For others... not so much. I mean, imagine if you took out 80% of the buttons in photoshop. Could a pro still edit a photo? Probably not. But the UI will be clean.

abenga 2y ago

If you like dense UIs with lots of options, you're better served using KDE or friends. I love that a less cluttered option exists, I don't understand why all DEs should behave the same.