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SPJ’s innovation, was to keep it bipartite and below— making sure type IIIs didnt feel like they were a higher class & everyone else was type II (Imagine an arm

SPJ’s innovation, was to keep it bipartite and below— making sure type IIIs didnt feel like they were a higher class & everyone else was type II (Imagine an army with only NCOs and officers, but the NCOs are type IIIs) No proles (grunts) in the orgchart of a very large design agency..culturally, designers often happy to work like grunts anyway! (Painters = painters) This trouble with the proles (app store, actual store, icloud, contractor relations, PR screwups.. ) ultimately stems from that failed pancreas transplant, so that they no longer had an IV to keep entropy in its place.. [plus maybe the programmers n ee types started to feel they werent fully designers (Bret Victor, later, pple like Lattner?)] [Check out the wwdc videos.. the sw engineers dress like.. they havent read the canon] https://culturology-journal.ru/en/article.php?id=309 https://culturology-journal.ru/en/article.php?id=309 https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/À_la_maréchale https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/À_la_maréchale See cultural references in the less misogynistic (misandric?) en wiki Equoid Lagniappe: the surnames 司馬 and Marshall have a common origin >the recipes in which are infamous for reducing the population of anarchist cooks >I then began thinking about the other aspects of the bizarre parasitic life-cycle of the unicorn

gradschoolfail 2y ago
Contrast also the scale of the engineering consultancies/art/design coops that are purportedly the talent-dense equivalents of Mondragon, eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arup_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arup_Group
082349872349872 2y ago
> So that no rabbit would sign up in the first place. I liked Добро пожаловать, или Посторонним вход воспрещён (1964), in which the summer camp director plays a very soviet version of an Eric Berne Transactional Analysis* game, "Everything I do, I do it for you". According to wikipedia, it's infamous in russian for the lines: — Children, remember! You all are the owners of the camp. [All of] you! What do you all [therefore] need? — [children in chorus] Di. Sci. Pline! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku_V2HgK6i8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku_V2HgK6i8 Thx for Equoid! Not having started in on it yet, all I have for now is pedantry, for the commenters on Stross' blog who are making horse analogies (as well as the wonderful Unicorns From Hell vid) are way off base: horses are Perissodactyl, but unicorns are Artiodactyl. * I'm not sold on TA, but learning to tune out as soon as you notice the opening moves of a TA game? That's sanity-preserving material right there. PS. I've lost the source for the roman trichotomy; plz remind?
- gradschoolfail 2y ago
  [PS] B Russell, In Praise of Idleness
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    Aha, I'd been remembering types I/II but forgotten about III — now that I'm reminded, it's time to rewatch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPPpjU1UeAo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPPpjU1UeAo .
    - gradschoolfail 2y ago
      Currently trying to read^W skim Pynchon’s buddy Farina to get an 1960s inside outsider’s perspective on that.. >the second kind is capable of indefinite extension Rather i took the hint from here. But his third class does seem to have some overlap with [my intended] type IIIs. E.g. (esp?) technicals from the cadet branches who feel (attribute guilt? stereotype threat?) the need to do some legacy-laundering.. (Compare with the social origins of SPJ) Stronger connection to founder mode is that YC is in their own words (having a hard time locating exact quote) modelled after Harvard. So while the coarse-grained view from the POV of hoi polloi does look like your music video, our “local deities” were inside-outsiders, once upon a time in New England (as well as Ithacan transplants, for a couple of them)
      - 082349872349872 2y ago
        OK, technicals, even cadet technicals, don't fall into my type III, precisely because they tend to stay active (although then they choose projects by interest instead of profitability). For me, type III starts when one can not only stay in bed all monday and tuesday, but even go sailing across the pacific, without impacting one's income stream in any way — and is confirmed when one actually does so. ("Did nothing in particular / And did it very well") The circles which I find are enriched in these type IIIs are also very geek-poor. I think HN's stereotype of financial independence is of someone who's made a successful exit, but (or is this just my parochialism talking?) imx most of my type IIIs were born with it or married into it. (BTW, I have trad Sand Hill experience, and therefore only the haziest idea of YC. I've been holding off on another, "riding herd", model of what I suspect may be a different sol'n to bigco hires than founder mode, because it'll take a great deal of explanation, but maybe if you're willing to explain the distinctive parts of YC to me I can attempt to explain why I think it's possible bigco hires could very well have been successful under a two-decades-of-sales CEO but tank under leadership that came up through engineering — if so, there's another [imnsho better] alternative to founder mode) EDIT: http://www.pynchon.pomona.edu/uncollected/farina.html http://www.pynchon.pomona.edu/uncollected/farina.html > On weeknights they had to be inside these places by something like 11 P.M., at which time all the doors were locked. I'm not even close to that old, and I've been kicked out of a women's dorm because they were locking the doors. Compare the concierge's (knowing but ironically ignorant) smile, at Lydia's dorm in Наваждение(1965)!

gradschoolfail 2y ago

Contrast also the scale of the engineering consultancies/art/design coops that are purportedly the talent-dense equivalents of Mondragon, eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arup_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arup_Group

082349872349872 2y ago

> So that no rabbit would sign up in the first place. I liked Добро пожаловать, или Посторонним вход воспрещён (1964), in which the summer camp director plays a very soviet version of an Eric Berne Transactional Analysis* game, "Everything I do, I do it for you". According to wikipedia, it's infamous in russian for the lines: — Children, remember! You all are the owners of the camp. [All of] you! What do you all [therefore] need? — [children in chorus] Di. Sci. Pline! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku_V2HgK6i8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku_V2HgK6i8 Thx for Equoid! Not having started in on it yet, all I have for now is pedantry, for the commenters on Stross' blog who are making horse analogies (as well as the wonderful Unicorns From Hell vid) are way off base: horses are Perissodactyl, but unicorns are Artiodactyl. * I'm not sold on TA, but learning to tune out as soon as you notice the opening moves of a TA game? That's sanity-preserving material right there. PS. I've lost the source for the roman trichotomy; plz remind?

gradschoolfail 2y ago
[PS] B Russell, In Praise of Idleness
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  Aha, I'd been remembering types I/II but forgotten about III — now that I'm reminded, it's time to rewatch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPPpjU1UeAo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPPpjU1UeAo .
  - gradschoolfail 2y ago
    Currently trying to read^W skim Pynchon’s buddy Farina to get an 1960s inside outsider’s perspective on that.. >the second kind is capable of indefinite extension Rather i took the hint from here. But his third class does seem to have some overlap with [my intended] type IIIs. E.g. (esp?) technicals from the cadet branches who feel (attribute guilt? stereotype threat?) the need to do some legacy-laundering.. (Compare with the social origins of SPJ) Stronger connection to founder mode is that YC is in their own words (having a hard time locating exact quote) modelled after Harvard. So while the coarse-grained view from the POV of hoi polloi does look like your music video, our “local deities” were inside-outsiders, once upon a time in New England (as well as Ithacan transplants, for a couple of them)
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      OK, technicals, even cadet technicals, don't fall into my type III, precisely because they tend to stay active (although then they choose projects by interest instead of profitability). For me, type III starts when one can not only stay in bed all monday and tuesday, but even go sailing across the pacific, without impacting one's income stream in any way — and is confirmed when one actually does so. ("Did nothing in particular / And did it very well") The circles which I find are enriched in these type IIIs are also very geek-poor. I think HN's stereotype of financial independence is of someone who's made a successful exit, but (or is this just my parochialism talking?) imx most of my type IIIs were born with it or married into it. (BTW, I have trad Sand Hill experience, and therefore only the haziest idea of YC. I've been holding off on another, "riding herd", model of what I suspect may be a different sol'n to bigco hires than founder mode, because it'll take a great deal of explanation, but maybe if you're willing to explain the distinctive parts of YC to me I can attempt to explain why I think it's possible bigco hires could very well have been successful under a two-decades-of-sales CEO but tank under leadership that came up through engineering — if so, there's another [imnsho better] alternative to founder mode) EDIT: http://www.pynchon.pomona.edu/uncollected/farina.html http://www.pynchon.pomona.edu/uncollected/farina.html > On weeknights they had to be inside these places by something like 11 P.M., at which time all the doors were locked. I'm not even close to that old, and I've been kicked out of a women's dorm because they were locking the doors. Compare the concierge's (knowing but ironically ignorant) smile, at Lydia's dorm in Наваждение(1965)!