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> the LLM seemed willing to process absurd questions for eternity. In the context of scamming there seems to be an easy fix for that - abandon the conversation

by thih9 2y ago

> the LLM seemed willing to process absurd questions for eternity. In the context of scamming there seems to be an easy fix for that - abandon the conversation if it isn’t going well for the scammer. Even a counter-bait is an option: continue the conversation after it’s not going well and gradually lower the model’s complexity, eventually returning random words interspersed with sleep(). I guess some counter-counter-bait is possible too, along with some game theory references.

fredgrott 2y ago
except in real life....the scammer continues see Scammer Payback for examples: https://www.youtube.com/@scammerpayback https://www.youtube.com/@scammerpayback equal in entertainment is when a voice actor starts scamming the scammers, see IRL Rosie: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_0osV_nf2b0sIbm4Wiw4RQ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_0osV_nf2b0sIbm4Wiw4RQ I listen to them when I code...
- dragontamer 2y ago
  IIRC, a fair number of these "scammers" are abducted people who are being beaten by criminals if they don't make progress. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/28/world/asia/cambodia-cyber-scam.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/28/world/asia/cambodia-cyber... > The victims say they answered ads that they thought were legitimate, promising high salaries. Once trafficked into these scam compounds, they were held captive and forced to defraud people. Many were told to entice victims online with fraudulent investment opportunities, the promise of interest-free loans or the chance to buy items on fake e-commerce apps. If they performed badly, they were sold to another scam mill. Those caught trying to escape were often beaten. --------- The scammer at a minimum needs to look like they're making progress and doing everything they can to scam you. Their life depends on it. There's no joy to be found anywhere here. Its all crap. Just don't interact with the scam groups at all.

by thih9 2y ago

fredgrott 2y ago

except in real life....the scammer continues see Scammer Payback for examples: https://www.youtube.com/@scammerpayback https://www.youtube.com/@scammerpayback equal in entertainment is when a voice actor starts scamming the scammers, see IRL Rosie: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_0osV_nf2b0sIbm4Wiw4RQ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_0osV_nf2b0sIbm4Wiw4RQ I listen to them when I code...

dragontamer 2y ago
IIRC, a fair number of these "scammers" are abducted people who are being beaten by criminals if they don't make progress. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/28/world/asia/cambodia-cyber-scam.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/28/world/asia/cambodia-cyber... > The victims say they answered ads that they thought were legitimate, promising high salaries. Once trafficked into these scam compounds, they were held captive and forced to defraud people. Many were told to entice victims online with fraudulent investment opportunities, the promise of interest-free loans or the chance to buy items on fake e-commerce apps. If they performed badly, they were sold to another scam mill. Those caught trying to escape were often beaten. --------- The scammer at a minimum needs to look like they're making progress and doing everything they can to scam you. Their life depends on it. There's no joy to be found anywhere here. Its all crap. Just don't interact with the scam groups at all.