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But just in case anyone gets any logical ideas from this, just a reminder: the COVID-19 virus was an exception and there's no chance it could have leaked (in fa

But just in case anyone gets any logical ideas from this, just a reminder: the COVID-19 virus was an exception and there's no chance it could have leaked (in fact if you think so you're a paranoid conspiracy theorist nut job, FYI) and everyone working at that lab was a perfect human being who's never made a mistake in their lives, and the fact that the virus was the same type as ones they were experimenting with, and ground zero was right nearby, was all just a coincidence. Moving on.

Auracle 2y ago
I’ll never forget, during the early-ish stages of COVID, NPR (All Things Considered, I believe) discussing the lab leak hypothesis, which they framed as a conspiracy theory. They said that China denied it as a possibility. Without a single iota of sarcasm, the host said something along the lines of “Well, that definitely rules that out then.” Great investigative journalism.
- K0balt 2y ago
  lol yeah that was mind blowing. I can’t directly assert anything specific about the corona GOF lab leak(which seems to be the only hypothesis supported by any evidence) but I did unknowingly participate in an interesting and tragic anecdote in (December?) of that year. I had been residing in the Dominican Republic at that time, and my father was doing poorly so I flew home to Alaska. When I got on the plane it was filled entirely with what appeared to be ethnic Chinese, with only a sparse few Dominicans on the flight. During the flight I became curious and asked a fellow passenger in my row what the event was. He said that the people on the plane were on their way to conferences in the USA, and that the Chinese government had provided some kind of incentive to Wuhan businesses to “facilitate growth” by sending representatives to conferences in the USA, resulting in a sudden flood of conference goers. Travel was evidently part of the incentive, and the man I was talking to was baffled as to why his travel reservations(and that of hundreds if not thousands of others) had routed them through the Dominican Republic. We both supposed that it was just because the flood of visitors must have filled all of the other routes. In retrospect I can imagine other explanations that are a bit more complex, but who knows. Coincidence? Perhaps. But I can see the potential motivation for an industrial country that knows it is about to be brought to its knees by an epidemic to take measures to be sure that it isn’t singled out and isolated. Once arriving, I soon became debilitatingly ill with what I assumed was the “Chinese flu”. Unfortunately I passed Covid on to my father before I fell ill and to the family of my good friend while I was there during my recovery- a time which if it had been influenza I would no longer have been contagious. By the time I got back to the Dominican Republic, the news of Covid was breaking. Within days of getting home, my father died, and my friend and his elderly mother were both dead within two weeks. I feel like China made me complicit in the killing of my father and my friend and his mother. For my father, I was with him before i realised I was getting sick, for my friend I was “no longer sick, just tired”. If we had known about the severity and scope of this in a more timely fashion from China, and if there weren’t planes full of Wuhan residents erupting into the USA (through sussy routes) perhaps at least my friend and his mother might have been spared. Anyway, Covid really sucks and it makes me livid seeing idiots that think precautions are some kind of government plot to take their freedumns.
  - nextos 2y ago
    This is really terrifying, I am so sorry.
    - K0balt 2y ago
      Thank you for the kind words. It was a really rough year, also lost a daughter in law (to mental illness) and my wife’s cancer also came out of remission. She died a year ago. I suspect, after talking to the doctors during her treatment, that SARS-COV19 may have played a part in that as well. (perhaps through immunological stress?) The doctors told me that the resurgence of cancer from cases that were years in remission (such as my wife’s) were rampant since SARS-COV19. The cancer institute where she got treatment had seen an uptick of over 20 percent in remission failures over just two years. Anyway, life goes on, I’m doing better and working on productive projects with my family. I take a lot less for granted these days lol.

Auracle 2y ago

I’ll never forget, during the early-ish stages of COVID, NPR (All Things Considered, I believe) discussing the lab leak hypothesis, which they framed as a conspiracy theory. They said that China denied it as a possibility. Without a single iota of sarcasm, the host said something along the lines of “Well, that definitely rules that out then.” Great investigative journalism.

K0balt 2y ago
lol yeah that was mind blowing. I can’t directly assert anything specific about the corona GOF lab leak(which seems to be the only hypothesis supported by any evidence) but I did unknowingly participate in an interesting and tragic anecdote in (December?) of that year. I had been residing in the Dominican Republic at that time, and my father was doing poorly so I flew home to Alaska. When I got on the plane it was filled entirely with what appeared to be ethnic Chinese, with only a sparse few Dominicans on the flight. During the flight I became curious and asked a fellow passenger in my row what the event was. He said that the people on the plane were on their way to conferences in the USA, and that the Chinese government had provided some kind of incentive to Wuhan businesses to “facilitate growth” by sending representatives to conferences in the USA, resulting in a sudden flood of conference goers. Travel was evidently part of the incentive, and the man I was talking to was baffled as to why his travel reservations(and that of hundreds if not thousands of others) had routed them through the Dominican Republic. We both supposed that it was just because the flood of visitors must have filled all of the other routes. In retrospect I can imagine other explanations that are a bit more complex, but who knows. Coincidence? Perhaps. But I can see the potential motivation for an industrial country that knows it is about to be brought to its knees by an epidemic to take measures to be sure that it isn’t singled out and isolated. Once arriving, I soon became debilitatingly ill with what I assumed was the “Chinese flu”. Unfortunately I passed Covid on to my father before I fell ill and to the family of my good friend while I was there during my recovery- a time which if it had been influenza I would no longer have been contagious. By the time I got back to the Dominican Republic, the news of Covid was breaking. Within days of getting home, my father died, and my friend and his elderly mother were both dead within two weeks. I feel like China made me complicit in the killing of my father and my friend and his mother. For my father, I was with him before i realised I was getting sick, for my friend I was “no longer sick, just tired”. If we had known about the severity and scope of this in a more timely fashion from China, and if there weren’t planes full of Wuhan residents erupting into the USA (through sussy routes) perhaps at least my friend and his mother might have been spared. Anyway, Covid really sucks and it makes me livid seeing idiots that think precautions are some kind of government plot to take their freedumns.
- nextos 2y ago
  This is really terrifying, I am so sorry.
  - K0balt 2y ago
    Thank you for the kind words. It was a really rough year, also lost a daughter in law (to mental illness) and my wife’s cancer also came out of remission. She died a year ago. I suspect, after talking to the doctors during her treatment, that SARS-COV19 may have played a part in that as well. (perhaps through immunological stress?) The doctors told me that the resurgence of cancer from cases that were years in remission (such as my wife’s) were rampant since SARS-COV19. The cancer institute where she got treatment had seen an uptick of over 20 percent in remission failures over just two years. Anyway, life goes on, I’m doing better and working on productive projects with my family. I take a lot less for granted these days lol.