I said: > someone who has "curiosity, passion, focus, creative problem solving" regarding programming would find this on their journey. Whereas you are descri

I said: > someone who has "curiosity, passion, focus, creative problem solving" regarding programming would find this on their journey. Whereas you are describing someone who merely views programming as a job. It's perfectly fine to view programming as "just work" but that's not passion. All of the truly great engineers I've worked with are obsessed with programming and comp sci topics in general. They study things in the evening for fun. It's clear that you don't, and again, that's fine, but that's not what we're talking about. Software for you is a job. I work in software because it's an excuse to get paid to do what I love doing. In the shadow of the dotcom bust most engineers where like this, and, they were more technical and show more expertise than most software engineers do today.