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> On the one hand, physical activity is clearly one of the best interventions for preventing physical disease and mental suffering As far as I've read, it's de

> On the one hand, physical activity is clearly one of the best interventions for preventing physical disease and mental suffering As far as I've read, it's decidedly unclear that general physical activity as an intervention is proven for much of anything; as Dr. Ashley mentions, most of the data we have is from observational studies. I think it's fair to say that for the vast majority of people, a moderate amount of physical activity is almost certainly better overall than being a total couch potato. But it's also not as simple as "active good, sedentary bad". In particular, I've seen a few studies suggesting that physical activity at one's job might not have the same disease-prevention benefits as physical activity for leisure (e.g. [1]), which casts some doubt on the idea that the benefits are primarily coming from physical activity per se. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10621902/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10621902/

atoav 2y ago
Might have to do with: - physically active jobs paying less, and we simply measure poorer people being less healthy - physically active jobs being less of a cardio activity, and more of a "lift these 20 kg packages in unergonomic posture till you need a back surgery" I don't know many jobs which actually keep people fit in a healthy sense without coming with significant risks (think fire fighters, soldiers). Except maybe working in sports as a personal trainer or a sports teacher or something. But I know people below 40 who suffer from all kind of health issues which they would not have if they weren't couch potatoes as you phrased it. And this gets much worse the older you go. If you really doubt that excersise helps talk to a veteran retirement home nurse and ask them if they think excercise helps their clients.
- trillic 2y ago
  Gym teacher probably
- Horffupolde 2y ago
  Any job which pays well and lets you train by yourself.
devinmcafee 2y ago
What you are describing is the difference between acute and chronic stress placed on the body. There is a term for this: "the hormetic effect" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis People who undergo acute bouts of physical exercise with adequate recovery improve the well known blood markers and vital signs associated with the chronic diseases currently plaguing the modern world (cardiovascular disease, diabetes, stroke, etc). Long bouts, like ultra marathons or doing intense exercise for days on end without a rest day, is probably going to be deleterious to health because you never give your body a chance to recover and adapt. edit wording
bruh_moment1 2y ago
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atoav 2y ago

Might have to do with: - physically active jobs paying less, and we simply measure poorer people being less healthy - physically active jobs being less of a cardio activity, and more of a "lift these 20 kg packages in unergonomic posture till you need a back surgery" I don't know many jobs which actually keep people fit in a healthy sense without coming with significant risks (think fire fighters, soldiers). Except maybe working in sports as a personal trainer or a sports teacher or something. But I know people below 40 who suffer from all kind of health issues which they would not have if they weren't couch potatoes as you phrased it. And this gets much worse the older you go. If you really doubt that excersise helps talk to a veteran retirement home nurse and ask them if they think excercise helps their clients.

trillic 2y ago
Gym teacher probably
Horffupolde 2y ago
Any job which pays well and lets you train by yourself.

devinmcafee 2y ago

What you are describing is the difference between acute and chronic stress placed on the body. There is a term for this: "the hormetic effect" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis People who undergo acute bouts of physical exercise with adequate recovery improve the well known blood markers and vital signs associated with the chronic diseases currently plaguing the modern world (cardiovascular disease, diabetes, stroke, etc). Long bouts, like ultra marathons or doing intense exercise for days on end without a rest day, is probably going to be deleterious to health because you never give your body a chance to recover and adapt. edit wording

bruh_moment1 2y ago

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