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What is going on with the Kias in the "Highest rates of other-driver deaths" list? Most of the rest of the cars on that list make sense like the huge pickups bu

What is going on with the Kias in the "Highest rates of other-driver deaths" list? Most of the rest of the cars on that list make sense like the huge pickups but the Kia Optima, Rio, and Forte are all on the list. Are they popular ricers for street racing or something? Glad to see no Toyotas on the "Highest rates of driver deaths" list and the Corolla didn't place on any of the lists.

pacaro 2y ago
They are popular cars to steal because they are easy to steal. Stolen cars are used "differently" than other cars
wilsonnb3 2y ago
Probably because of the viral trend of stealing them https://www.theverge.com/23742425/kia-boys-car-theft-steal-tiktok-hyundai-usb https://www.theverge.com/23742425/kia-boys-car-theft-steal-t...
- throwup238 2y ago
  Of course! I forgot about the Kia boys There's also the whole Kia challenge: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Challenge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Challenge
twojacobtwo 2y ago
I was just about to ask the same question. My initial thought was that perhaps they all have small crumple zones, which would increase the overall force applied to everyone involved. I looked up images of the vehicles you mentioned and they all seem to have a relatively aggressive slope on their front ends, which got me thinking that they may end up acting like a sort of ramp in a collision and cause the other vehicle to become airborne or roll over.
- Two4 2y ago
  That's not really what happens with sloped front ends, which are a safety measure for pedestrians. Unlike when a Ferd F15000 hits you and the flat front grill knocks you flush at head height, sloped front ends tend to hit you in the legs and allow your torso to roll down on to the hood. In a head-to-head collision with another vehicle, the sloped front end is part of the crumple zone engineering, redirecting the forces upwards through a panel concertina and downwards through the engine block, which ideally should pop out and down towards the road.
dbreunig 2y ago
It's crazy that the "minicar" Kia Rio ranks in the top 10 among other-driver deaths. The Kia effect is real.

pacaro 2y ago

They are popular cars to steal because they are easy to steal. Stolen cars are used "differently" than other cars

wilsonnb3 2y ago

Probably because of the viral trend of stealing them https://www.theverge.com/23742425/kia-boys-car-theft-steal-tiktok-hyundai-usb https://www.theverge.com/23742425/kia-boys-car-theft-steal-t...

throwup238 2y ago
Of course! I forgot about the Kia boys There's also the whole Kia challenge: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Challenge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Challenge

twojacobtwo 2y ago

I was just about to ask the same question. My initial thought was that perhaps they all have small crumple zones, which would increase the overall force applied to everyone involved. I looked up images of the vehicles you mentioned and they all seem to have a relatively aggressive slope on their front ends, which got me thinking that they may end up acting like a sort of ramp in a collision and cause the other vehicle to become airborne or roll over.

Two4 2y ago
That's not really what happens with sloped front ends, which are a safety measure for pedestrians. Unlike when a Ferd F15000 hits you and the flat front grill knocks you flush at head height, sloped front ends tend to hit you in the legs and allow your torso to roll down on to the hood. In a head-to-head collision with another vehicle, the sloped front end is part of the crumple zone engineering, redirecting the forces upwards through a panel concertina and downwards through the engine block, which ideally should pop out and down towards the road.

dbreunig 2y ago

It's crazy that the "minicar" Kia Rio ranks in the top 10 among other-driver deaths. The Kia effect is real.