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Just seeing this for the first time, and I love the hacker ethos displayed here. Obviously there are Risks Involved especially for health care, but I appreciate
by lubujackson 2y ago
Just seeing this for the first time, and I love the hacker ethos displayed here. Obviously there are Risks Involved especially for health care, but I appreciate the well-researched and documented reasoning behind their solutions. Let the people control their own lives a bit more.
To me, the hacker mentality has, at its root, been about more about shortcutting red tape and discarding the guardrails the gov't put in place "for your own good". Often that comes hand in hand with rule breaking and illegal actions.
But since healthcare has been so fully co-opted by moneyed interests it is good to see things like this and "medical vacations" grow in popularity - not because they are great solutions but because they underline how thoroughly the current system has screwed the pooch and will hopefully lead to real change.
- AlbertCory 2y agoI know someone whose wife was judged terminal, and he took her to Mexico for some unapproved cancer therapies. This is not a rich guy. (She's dead now, as you might have guessed.)
- petermcneeley 2y ago>judged terminal ... She's dead now What is the intended message of this short story?
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- stavros 2y ago"Don't go to Mexico".
- dennis_jeeves2 2y agoOr if you go to Mexico you die.
- woleium 2y agodon’t waste your last days with quacks
- dennis_jeeves2 2y agoAlternatively phrased: waste your last days with mainstream quacks with an MD.
- fragmede 2y agoAnd I know someone who went to Mexico to get unapproved stem cell therapies when US doctors said he'd never walk again and now he's walking just fine. Anecdotes are just random stories you hear along the way.
- AlbertCory 2y agoThe point being: there's already a right to try unapproved therapies, even if it sometimes requires extra travel. People who aren't wealthy manage to try them. As for "anecdotes" -- do you have any actual data? Neither do I.
- TaylorAlexander 2y agoI can't quite discern the subtext here but I will say that for many people international travel is not an appropriate solution for access to health care. People who are elderly, very sick, or without a passport, travel could be infeasible. And beyond the logistical challenges, I think it should be fair to say axiomatically that international travel is not an adequate solution to healthcare access.
- AlbertCory 2y ago"right to try" seems to be enshrined in some US laws. Were you not aware of that? https://www.fda.gov/patients/learn-about-expanded-access-and-other-treatment-options/right-try https://www.fda.gov/patients/learn-about-expanded-access-and... as for "travel could be infeasible" : I'd suggest you call up some clinic in Mexico and pretend to be terminal and unable to travel. See if they come up with some solution for you.
- smsm42 2y agoThat makes as much sense as saying "marijuana is already legalized in the US - you just need to buy a plane ticket to Amsterdam". The whole point of having your rights in certain jurisdiction is that you didn't have to flee that jurisdiction to exercise the rights.
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- xp84 2y agoShe would have almost certainly been dead either way though. I’m all for allowing people to take these long shot bets. It’s their life.
- stavros 2y ago> more about shortcutting red tape and discarding the guardrails the gov't put in place "for your own good". Well, this really is for the good of the vast majority of people. The problem is that this also applies to a minority of people, who have the skills to research thing and make educated decisions about things. It's not a bad general rule, but maybe it should be overridable in certain circumstances, e.g. when you are experimenting on yourself.