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It's always a little weird when I see the topic of health insurance come up (and it comes up a lot). When I hear this argument, it's very apparent that this is
by xarien 14y ago
It's always a little weird when I see the topic of health insurance come up (and it comes up a lot). When I hear this argument, it's very apparent that this is a large emotional risk, but not a large financial one. In fact, this fear is a very illogical one compared to other risks.
Let's quantify real quick so we can remove the emotional barriers and just deal in numbers. According to AHIP's 2011 survey, average monthly cost of family insurance for a firm with less than 50 employees is $13,400. How does that compared to the risk of losing a salary of $50k, $75k, $100k+? (Btw, any firm with 2+ employees can qualify for group plans)
The problem here is that leaving work and thus losing that salary is a form of freedom for most. Again, this is our emotions playing tricks on us. Both can be quantified, but one is villainized and the other martyrized.
- courtewing 14y agoI don't think it is fair to compare health insurance with salary, they're completely different animals. #1: You cannot plan for the unexpected When you quit your job to start a business, you're planning to lose your existing salary. If you've planned well, your living expenses (food, rent, utilities, etc) are known, so you can plan for them. You don't plan to get sick or hurt, and even if you did, it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to accurately estimate how much it will cost you to get better. You pay for health insurance to help you pay for the unexpected, so its value is inherently volatile. #2: You cannot "go back" if the unexpected bites you If you're looking to start a business, chances are you are highly skilled, personable, and/or ambitious. These are all traits that lend themselves to being abnormally hirable, so if things didn't work out the way you had hoped, you can likely get back into the workforce with a similar salary from when you left. And if that doesn't work out, you still have a better shot than most at a myriad of other job opportunities that at least pay you something worth working for. If you get sick and you have insufficient health insurance, there are very few ways to get around it. If you were diagnosed with cancer a day after you quit your job, and your current individual provider was unwilling to provide all of the necessary treatment, you're out of luck. That's the ball game. You can't just back out of your startup venture and go back to work to fix the problem. #3: You can die Your salary can affect your quality of life, but with personal and societal safety nets, you're not going to die just because you're poor. The U.S. has no safety net that ensures you will be provided with all of the care you need to not die even from curable or treatable conditions. Medicaid is about the closest thing to such a net, but it doesn't cover every person nor every thing. No personal safety net will help you here either (unless you know a few billionaires that have enough of an interest in you being alive).
- xarien 14y agoThey're the same if you just put a dollar value on them. You can buy group insurance easily as a startup. Forget about everything else and just quantify it as money. In this case, you'd realize both risks when you start a company so the probability of the risk is 100%. You'd simply take the cost and multiply by 1 (probability) to quantify the risk. #1: as I wrote earlier, you buy the insurance and it's simply a fixed cost. #2: you have insurance so this point is invalid (you have access to cobra which is retroactive in case insurance has not been set up). #3: Again, you have insurance. I'm not sure why you're proposing to not purchase insurance because that's a completely different topic and discussion. My point was that the cost of insurance is easily quantified and is in fact much lower than the cost of not receiving a salary. It's about comparing apples to apples and honestly your argument really speaks to my original point that people tend to be overly emotional when evaluating insurance.