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Haskell powered companies
- five18pm 14y agoI thought the link would be of companies that use Haskell as their primary language of development, but it is more of companies which use/had used Haskell in one of their projects. The former would be interesting to know, if indeed such companies exist.
- reinhardt 14y agoThat would probably limit a lot the number and diversity of the potential candidates. As a complete outsider I find more interesting that Haskell is used for even few projects inside, say, Credit Suisse than a one-man shop nobody has heard of that uses Haskell exclusively; YMMV.
- sseveran 14y agoHaskell has much more of a group inside of a company will use it as their primary environment then adopting it wholesale. Haskell is used extensively in trading with almost every major bank and hedge fund using it, although no one talks about it. It is also extensively used in energy companies. There are a few companies out there that use it as their primary language such as Tsuru Capital and my company, Alpha Heavy Industries. By definition companies using it as their primary language will be smaller companies. Standard Chartered has a very large Haskell group.
- raverbashing 14y agoWhich energy companies and for what? The major problem with the 'smaller languages' is that sometimes, even if you want to, and can use it effectively, it's difficult to interface with other systems. For example, services using SOAP. Drivers to DBs and other systems. Sometimes it's easier to have your core login in Haskell for example, then make it interface with something else in Java/C#/etc which will have plugins for everything.
- gaius 14y agoDrivers to DBs I found this with OCaml too, so I decided to do something about it: http://gaiustech.github.com/ociml/ http://gaiustech.github.com/ociml/
- sseveran 14y agoI can't reveal that, but major ones with an international presence. Most use it for modeling. They do lots of modeling.
- five18pm 14y agoThat Haskell is used extensively in trading is quite interesting to know. This distinction did not come out that well on the wiki link. This is probably the reorganization that the page needs. Split in to sections highlighting companies which use Haskell as primary language, then split along industry lines. Highlighting companies which use Haskell as primary language will be beneficial to both the language and the companies. Brings along a trust factor that real money can be made while using on Haskell.
- anusinha 14y agoOCaml is also used extensively. I believe Jane Street Capital's entire codebase is in OCaml.
- frou_dh 14y agoJane Street or pointers to them seem to be the primary driver of OCaml on the internet. That's cool, but worrying in lack of diversity.
- gaius 14y agoAre you heavy industrial? Or did you just like the name? I was so disappointed when I discovered Urban Airship didn't actually operate airships...
- jurre 14y agoAmsterdam based Silk is built in Haskell (http://www.silkapp.com/ http://www.silkapp.com/), it's one of the few companies I know of but I guess they do exist.
- carterschonwald 14y agoDepending on how some endeavors pan out, my wee company, WellPosed, is likely to be in that rarified category in the near future :-) (strictly speaking it may be 2-3 distinct enterprises under the same umbrella, but same thing). Also some interesting stuff on the algorithmic & open source pipeline that'll be made available as those services come out. (a vague summary of the pending products/services can be seen in this month's who's hiring thread.)
- jamwt 14y agoAt bu.mp, for our main backend repository `sloccount` says: python: 22961 (67.22%) ansic: 6338 (18.55%) haskell: 4378 (12.82%) sh: 482 (1.41%) Edit: I should note, however, that the trend over the last year has been increasing that haskell share; you get just a lot done in not a lot of code... reuse is very good.
- enigmo 14y agoI didn't really believe Github's inflated line counts (125klocs) and was curious was sloccount would say... I'm a bit surprised with the results. The sheer quantity of C/C++, brainless coding over a few days, was impressive. Experience buys something I guess :-/ haskell: 65025 (88.22%) cpp: 6944 (9.42%) ansic: 1133 (1.54%) python: 391 (0.53%) java: 204 (0.28%) sh: 7 (0.01%)
- meriksson 14y agoThere is at least one: Scrive. Their codebase is almost completely Haskell. I think the only other language they use is Javascript for web stuff (but their web apps are built with Happstack). https://scrive.com https://scrive.com
- sidcool1234 14y agoIsn't this an old post?
- switz 14y agoJust because something wasn't posted in the last day does not mean it doesn't have relevant information.
- Symmetry 14y agoThat list is much longer than it used to be.
- nullspace 14y agoThat's good. I look forward to a time when Haskell will be a relevant point on my resume.
- carterschonwald 14y agowhy isn't it a relevant point on your resume? :)
- carterschonwald 14y agoPoint in fact, of the (several) really great folks who reached out to me from this months hiring thread, the only fellow I'm starting to collaborate with right now (rather than a few months out) has a few cute haskell Libs on hackage. And By collaborate mean a semi/Demi/ maybe even full cofounder piece :-) Here's the kicker about Haskell code (and many other functional langs): it's very easy to evaluate the work for quality engineering and whether or not there's some real ingenuity in it, beyond just the algorithmic pieces and the overall architecture diagram. Or at least I shall make that claim.
- SatvikBeri 14y agoReally random anecdote: I'm not a programmer, but I got a job interview because I put Common Lisp on my resume, and that caught the interviewer's eye...2 months later, I had my current position (which is my favorite job so far).
- mhartl 14y agoI can't imagine any tech company worth working for that wouldn't consider Haskell to be a big plus on a resume.
- edwinnathaniel 14y ago"Clojure powered startup" post was an hour before this. Jealous? run away
- dtbx 14y agoIt never occurs to me that a company could be "powered" by Haskell. In my old job, I used haskell for everything from satellital image analysis to the web frontend, but I didn't tell anyone. Specially I didn't tell my bosses. When they discovered my functional tendencies, they were upset and worried. They feel betrayed, but it was too late. The company was an "haskell powered company". I give them an edge over the other companies in the field, but when I leave, they were orphaned and unable to hire a new Haskell programmer (I live in Chile, a very imperative nation). Too bad for them, but for me, it was "pure" functional fun.
- dons 14y agoIs Haskell taught in college at any Chilean university? Without it being taught to undergrads, it will be hard to find devs locally.
- dtbx 14y agoNo, it's totally unknown here in Chile. Even professors don't know anything about a language named Haskell.
- andrewcooke 14y agothat's not true! the dynamic languages group (a meetup.com-organised thing - perhaps started by continuum? - here in santiago) had at least one talk on it - i know because i was there! although i admit i don't think anyone said they were using it in production... [and the last conversation i had with someone from u chile's computing dept was on datalog. so it's hard to imagine they wouldn't know about something as popular as haskell. and a friend in the engineering/geophysics dept (don't know the correct name - contract research for mines) uses it. and...]
- bootload 14y ago"... it's totally unknown here in Chile. ..." Out of curiosity, how did you learn Haskell?
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- jcromartie 14y agoThe first one I clicked on was dead... the procedural city generation one (http://gamr7.com/ http://gamr7.com/) :(
- cadr 14y agoWhich of these are in the bay area? Bump/Facebook/Google - what else?
- hkmurakami 14y agoLucent is off of highway 237. Ericsson has a few buildings on 237 (near Marvell / Brocade) but somehow I doubt that the Haskell group is located here.
- ams6110 14y agoHustler Turf Equipment Hesston, Kansas ... Designs, builds, and sells lawn mowers. Wow... I mean talk about the LAST company you would think would be using a language like Haskell. I would have more likely pictured some horrible VB6-Access mess. Just goes to show you what the risks are in assuming...
- rbxbx 14y agoIt's not that crazy if you think about it. If you're a freelancer working small contracts for people that "want a website", you're pretty free to use whatever technology you'd like. Doubly so if you "provide hosting". Outside of tech and corporate circles people could really give a damn. They just want to get things done.
- mark_h 14y agoIs that where John Goerzen (of http://book.realworldhaskell.org/ http://book.realworldhaskell.org/) works? I watched Bryan O'Sullivan's CUFP keynote the other night, http://cufp.org/videos/keynote-real-world-haskell http://cufp.org/videos/keynote-real-world-haskell, and he mentioned that John was working at a tractor company in Kansas or something along those lines!
- gtani 14y agoHaving type-safe/correct software is a huge benefit when you're controlling machinery program vehicle computers that control hybrid powertrains for heavy duty trucks -- garbage to be specific. Our systems interface with engines, transmissions, brake controllers, and yes, accelerator pedals. Haskell GADTs ensure type correctness of the generated C code. I find it interesting that a type system in one language can prevent type problems in another. http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2010-April/075647.html http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2010-April/075...
- evanlong 14y agoYou know I bet http://girlloveshaskell.com/ http://girlloveshaskell.com/ knows all about these places.
- nandemo 14y agoI asked her out once. She blew me off saying I was "too eager" and "not her type".
- exDM69 14y agoAt nvidia, we have a handful of in-house tools that are written in Haskell. My manager is a huge Haskell fan and he satisfies his coding itch by writing some tools with it. The tools we have are quite simple, like running a set of automated tests on a Tegra device and then upload results (pass/fail, code coverage, memory leak stats, etc) to a web interface. We've had a few Haskell coding nights where I and my boss have been teaching our teammates some Haskell skills. We have about half a dozen coders (out of ~50 at our office) who can do enough Haskell to get shit done.
- apk17 14y agoThat's cool; but what is the point of haskell there? It sounds like you'd just as well could use, say, ruby; what does the specific feature set of haskell help here? (Apart from it being somewhat hard to actually write fortran code in haskell. :-)
- lipponlabang 14y agoYou could just as easily say what's the point of ruby. Why would they use ruby over haskell? They probable use haskell due to its strong typing and so on.
- djhworld 14y agoType safety would be the main plus point for me, even for tools and scripts. Plus I guess some people just prefer functional programming when they can and Haskell offers that in abundance. I guess the downside is the less portable nature of the code (this is where Clojure et al. would probably win...although writing command line tools and scripts in a JVM language still has a long way to go IMO)
- exDM69 14y agoActually, Haskell libraries were perhaps more important than any individual language feature. The language allows such good abstractions that libraries like Parsec or Haskell XML toolkit are very nice to use.
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- shellox 14y agoWhat are the arguments for using Haskell over Ruby? For which purposes fit Haskell better?