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>does anyone still believe that Pluton, also copy-pasted from the Xbox, is about end user security? I never did. The worst part is explaining it to people drin
by heraldgeezer 2y ago
>does anyone still believe that Pluton, also copy-pasted from the Xbox, is about end user security?
I never did. The worst part is explaining it to people drinking the MS coolaid. I'm an MS admin so people at work love Win11, Intune etc all that max lockdown shit. To me that's not what Windows is about, for me Windows is excellent because of the admin tools and backwards compatibility. But hey that's just me.
Proton will be another TPM thing, introduce it, wait 5 years, then mandate it. They have time.
- criddell 2y agoAnother TPM thing? What problem do you have with the TPM?
- heraldgeezer 2y agoIt being a Win11 requirement. It failing and triggering Bitlocker on our machines. It's just shit :) No I don't have another solution. Let me complain.
- dangus 2y agoWhat garbage hardware are you running where TPM is failing?
- kotaKat 2y agoEvery Windows Update that Lenovo kept pushing UEFI updates on their shiny new X13s with the Snapdragon and the Pluton chip in it kept tripping Bitlocker on every update. So, uh... Lenovo?
- semi-extrinsic 2y agoFWIW, my old corpo HP would also trigger Bitlocker sometimes on random shit, such as upgrading the firmware of the docking station. But that was usually fixable either by unplugging USB devices while booting, or just trying many reboots until Bitlocker suddenly decided everything was OK.
- mavhc 2y agoHad about 25% of our Dell laptops' TPM fail, got to know the repair technician well.
- 1oooqooq 2y agoTPM end game is to have identity tied to a device on pcs, just like the monopolies already have on Android and IOS. you know how google and apple dropped actual totp 2nd factor for their own accounts and force you to sign on another device to confirm signing on new devices? same thing.
- dangus 2y agoApple has SMS if you don’t own an Apple device. In fact, they require SMS to set up 2FA. They probably dropped totp because non-technical people can’t figure it out.
- olyjohn 2y agoSMS is not really great.
- throwaway48476 2y agoSMS is trivially exploitable. It has negative security value.
- ivewonyoung 2y agoTrivially? How?
- fragmede 2y agoI wouldn't call it trivial, but either a SS7 attack or by bribing the TMobile/Verizon/att store employee, you can get someone's SMS messages.
- dangus 2y agoSMS is the only 2FA method that the general public understands. It is absolutely better than nothing even if isn’t great.
- Brian_K_White 2y ago
- a1o 2y agoThe TPM thing that got hacked the other day?
- botanical 2y agoHundreds of millions of perfectly good PCs are going to be end-of-life due to this.
- rolph 2y ago-no not end of life, end of microsoft.
- rkagerer 2y ago> But hey that's just me. There are more of us out there!
- 4ggr0 2y agoThere are literally dozens of us!