I think there's a problem in starting with such languages. It fills the mind with vague and subtly wrong mental models that are hard to change. I know a lot of

I think there's a problem in starting with such languages. It fills the mind with vague and subtly wrong mental models that are hard to change. I know a lot of developers who can't see beyond the text box where they have to get some code to run and that's detrimental to them and to the industry. I believe that teaching should focus on fundamentals and how to compose them rather then straight to 'let's write some code in this box and get some magical results, you don't need to know more than that'.