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There are people who run the latest-updated Windows with all the defaults (including automatic updates) and still manage to get infected by malware or otherwise

There are people who run the latest-updated Windows with all the defaults (including automatic updates) and still manage to get infected by malware or otherwise mess up their system enough to need reinstalled regularly, and then there are people like this (and I know many others) who have no problems with the same system for literally decades. I've long believed that user actions make the biggest difference in security, but because gullible users are easily phished and taken advantage of, both legally and otherwise, it's in the companies' best interests to not encourage users to become aware of that.

mjevans 2y ago
It's a major factor. End user applications and behavior are like a house above ground. However security also depends on the foundation, that's the OS and hardware beneath. If those are poor then there's no hope for stability.
Dalewyn 2y ago
>then there are people like this (and I know many others) who have no problems with the same system for literally decades. Can confirm, am one of them. Have a Pentium 4, Windows XP machine with the same install since 2008 still kicking ass; likewise a 2700K, Windows 7 machine with the same install since 2012. Most people treat their computers (and Windows installs) like a god damn landfill with the worst refuse known to mankind.
- kjellsbells 2y ago
  Amen! Some folks have no concept of computer hygiene (as in, run the least amount possible, install them in a consistent manner, consider very seriously if an app is needed at all) But it's not entirely the users' fault when apps are shaggy and put their tendrils all over, and there are, what now, seven different ways to install apps on Windows?