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> Websites are only blocked when they are found to host malicious content, such as copyright infringements, online gambling, or pornography So I guess pornogra

by Shank 2y ago

> Websites are only blocked when they are found to host malicious content, such as copyright infringements, online gambling, or pornography So I guess pornography is illegal in Malaysia? I guess this is a great time for Malaysian users to switch to DoH. Edit: Yes. Wikipedia: > Pornography is illegal in Malaysia with fines of up to RM10,000 for owning or sharing pornographic materials

CAP_NET_ADMIN 2y ago
Countries always fighting the most important battles :eyeroll:
- stackghost 2y ago
  Porn is just the justification. It's easy to find something repugnant on whatever streaming video site and then start with the "protect the children" nonsense. The real issue is always control.
- RandomThoughts3 2y ago
  Backward countries being backward. The main flaw of modern liberal societies is that parts of them have stopped believing that liberalism is indeed progress. All hail the moral police and long live cultural relativism or whatever its currently trendy post-structural reconstruction is.
  - yarg 2y ago
    It doesn't help that the term 'liberal' has had its meaning so co-opted that it now refers to people who reject freedom of speech and belief.
    - CaptainFever 2y ago
      True, though I would say that is leftism. Leftists actually hate liberals and use it as a slur, believe it or not.
      - BlueTemplar 2y ago
        While they often go together, economic liberalism shouldn't be confused with social liberalism.
seungwoolee518 2y ago
My country (Korea, South) is also prohibited to get pornography service. (And they also terminate TLS using TLS HELLO) So, DoH should be work fine for now, but they'll (gov.) terminate HTTPS (or TLS) connection ASAP.
- christophilus 2y ago
  The only hotel I remember from my visit to South Korea (20 years ago) had a whole bookcase full of porno DVDs in the lobby. Were they just breaking the law in plain view?
  - seungwoolee518 2y ago
    There are some movies out there (but it's not a porn.) as Ero(tic)-Movie. It's legal, but it's not a porn.
    - kijin 2y ago
      There are conditions a producer must meet to make their wares legal. Same as why a lot of Japanese people seem to have pixelated genitals. ;)
  - csomar 2y ago
    People break the law all the time, it's up to the government to enforce it and many times the government is unable to do that. See here in the case of Malaysia, it's not that Porn was legal, it's that they weren't competent enough to restrict it or know about DNS things.
    - deleted 2y ago
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- 38 2y ago
  You can spoof the TLS Hello since at least 2021
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
harrygeez 2y ago
I'm Malaysian. They even messed up DoH for the popular DNS providers like Google and Cloudflare. I think they are routing 1.1.1.1 to their own DNS, so when you try to connect to DoH you get SSL_ERR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN. The only option it seems is to VPN or play the cat and mouse game now to find a DNS that hasn't been rerouted yet
- defrost 2y ago
  You might get some joy from using Portmaster (windows OS) and|or the Foundation for Applied Privacy https://wiki.safing.io/en/Portmaster/App/DNSConfiguration https://wiki.safing.io/en/Portmaster/App/DNSConfiguration https://applied-privacy.net/services/dns/ https://applied-privacy.net/services/dns/ There are non standard transports for DNS via non standard providers | DNS proxies - this tool and that foundation are a start.
- _lvbh 2y ago
  Where are you? My DNS seems to work perfectly fine right now in Penang (with VPN off). It’s sad that democracies are copying the playbook of China. Will definitely be using v2ray/X-ray while here
  - harrygeez 2y ago
    I'm in PJ. It seems that they have reversed the move after wide media coverage, claiming that it there has been a "confusion"
  - kelnos 2y ago
    > It’s sad that democracies are copying... "Democracy" is a bit of a red herring here. Democracy doesn't mean the government can't censor you or restrict what information or media you can consume. Democracy just means that the voters have consented to whatever legal framework is in place, and to whatever their leaders want to do within that framework. And that's the thing: in many democracies around the world, if there was a referendum on the law to blocking copyright infringement, online gambling, or pornography at the ISP level, I think many would pass that law. (Certainly there are "democracies" out there that only pay lip service to the concept, and have fixed elections and repression of dissent or opposition. I'm not talking about those.)

by Shank 2y ago

CAP_NET_ADMIN 2y ago

Countries always fighting the most important battles :eyeroll:

stackghost 2y ago
Porn is just the justification. It's easy to find something repugnant on whatever streaming video site and then start with the "protect the children" nonsense. The real issue is always control.
RandomThoughts3 2y ago
Backward countries being backward. The main flaw of modern liberal societies is that parts of them have stopped believing that liberalism is indeed progress. All hail the moral police and long live cultural relativism or whatever its currently trendy post-structural reconstruction is.
- yarg 2y ago
  It doesn't help that the term 'liberal' has had its meaning so co-opted that it now refers to people who reject freedom of speech and belief.
  - CaptainFever 2y ago
    True, though I would say that is leftism. Leftists actually hate liberals and use it as a slur, believe it or not.
    - BlueTemplar 2y ago
      While they often go together, economic liberalism shouldn't be confused with social liberalism.

seungwoolee518 2y ago

My country (Korea, South) is also prohibited to get pornography service. (And they also terminate TLS using TLS HELLO) So, DoH should be work fine for now, but they'll (gov.) terminate HTTPS (or TLS) connection ASAP.

christophilus 2y ago
The only hotel I remember from my visit to South Korea (20 years ago) had a whole bookcase full of porno DVDs in the lobby. Were they just breaking the law in plain view?
- seungwoolee518 2y ago
  There are some movies out there (but it's not a porn.) as Ero(tic)-Movie. It's legal, but it's not a porn.
  - kijin 2y ago
    There are conditions a producer must meet to make their wares legal. Same as why a lot of Japanese people seem to have pixelated genitals. ;)
- csomar 2y ago
  People break the law all the time, it's up to the government to enforce it and many times the government is unable to do that. See here in the case of Malaysia, it's not that Porn was legal, it's that they weren't competent enough to restrict it or know about DNS things.
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]
38 2y ago
You can spoof the TLS Hello since at least 2021
HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago

harrygeez 2y ago

I'm Malaysian. They even messed up DoH for the popular DNS providers like Google and Cloudflare. I think they are routing 1.1.1.1 to their own DNS, so when you try to connect to DoH you get SSL_ERR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN. The only option it seems is to VPN or play the cat and mouse game now to find a DNS that hasn't been rerouted yet

defrost 2y ago
You might get some joy from using Portmaster (windows OS) and|or the Foundation for Applied Privacy https://wiki.safing.io/en/Portmaster/App/DNSConfiguration https://wiki.safing.io/en/Portmaster/App/DNSConfiguration https://applied-privacy.net/services/dns/ https://applied-privacy.net/services/dns/ There are non standard transports for DNS via non standard providers | DNS proxies - this tool and that foundation are a start.
_lvbh 2y ago
Where are you? My DNS seems to work perfectly fine right now in Penang (with VPN off). It’s sad that democracies are copying the playbook of China. Will definitely be using v2ray/X-ray while here
- harrygeez 2y ago
  I'm in PJ. It seems that they have reversed the move after wide media coverage, claiming that it there has been a "confusion"
- kelnos 2y ago
  > It’s sad that democracies are copying... "Democracy" is a bit of a red herring here. Democracy doesn't mean the government can't censor you or restrict what information or media you can consume. Democracy just means that the voters have consented to whatever legal framework is in place, and to whatever their leaders want to do within that framework. And that's the thing: in many democracies around the world, if there was a referendum on the law to blocking copyright infringement, online gambling, or pornography at the ISP level, I think many would pass that law. (Certainly there are "democracies" out there that only pay lip service to the concept, and have fixed elections and repression of dissent or opposition. I'm not talking about those.)