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Wayland is being pushed out more and more, and it still has many problems for me on my Nvidia card. I know it is mostly Nvidia fault, but at the end of the day,

Wayland is being pushed out more and more, and it still has many problems for me on my Nvidia card. I know it is mostly Nvidia fault, but at the end of the day, I am not here to assign blame, I just want to use my PC.

lupusreal 2y ago
You can just... not use wayland. The "push" is easy to defy. Just don't use it.
- redserk 2y ago
  So just switch to Linux from Windows and immediately start deviating from distribution-supported defaults… This suggestion comes up implicitly in a lot of weird hardware cases. It really isn’t a selling point for a user wanting a good first (or recurring) impression. Just to call out: X11 isn’t all rainbows and unicorns either. Wayland (for the various defects I’ve encountered) is a desperately needed improvement.
  - lupusreal 2y ago
    If you're scared to deviate from defaults you're not going to ever see wayland in the first place, so relax.
    - oefnak 2y ago
      I thought it was default on Ubuntu
      - lupusreal 2y ago
        The default on virtually any computer is Windows or MacOS. If you're scared of deviating from defaults you'll not have to worry about Ubuntu. Okay, so you're willing to change your whole operating system to something which is quite different than what you're used to.. but you're not willing to switch off of Wayland even though you know you don't like wayland and know the alternative fixes your problem, because you feel somehow compelled to stick with a default? Makes no sense. You should either not use wayland, either by sticking with windows or switching to X11, or buy hardware that supports wayland better, or learn to live with wayland as it is without feeling sorry for yourself. Using wayland even though you don't like it is 100% a self-inflicted harm. Nobody is making you do that, the "push" is in your head. Just stop doing that.
        WiredSlumber 2y ago
        Well I use X11, because Wayland is just not there yet, at least for my particular hardware, but it is true that more and more distros come with Wayland as the default. Linux can't become more widely used, if the answer for anyone installing a wide array of distros is, if your pc has a GPU that 90% of pcs have you should immediately change this default setting. It is fine to be a power user and mess with your system, but the default configuration should have the expectation of working well on as wide array of hardware as possible.
nzeid 2y ago
Worth mentioning that I've had AMD blow up on Wayland as well, so I only have my one device with an Intel iGPU running Wayland. Everything else X11.

lupusreal 2y ago

You can just... not use wayland. The "push" is easy to defy. Just don't use it.

redserk 2y ago
So just switch to Linux from Windows and immediately start deviating from distribution-supported defaults… This suggestion comes up implicitly in a lot of weird hardware cases. It really isn’t a selling point for a user wanting a good first (or recurring) impression. Just to call out: X11 isn’t all rainbows and unicorns either. Wayland (for the various defects I’ve encountered) is a desperately needed improvement.
- lupusreal 2y ago
  If you're scared to deviate from defaults you're not going to ever see wayland in the first place, so relax.
  - oefnak 2y ago
    I thought it was default on Ubuntu
    - lupusreal 2y ago
      The default on virtually any computer is Windows or MacOS. If you're scared of deviating from defaults you'll not have to worry about Ubuntu. Okay, so you're willing to change your whole operating system to something which is quite different than what you're used to.. but you're not willing to switch off of Wayland even though you know you don't like wayland and know the alternative fixes your problem, because you feel somehow compelled to stick with a default? Makes no sense. You should either not use wayland, either by sticking with windows or switching to X11, or buy hardware that supports wayland better, or learn to live with wayland as it is without feeling sorry for yourself. Using wayland even though you don't like it is 100% a self-inflicted harm. Nobody is making you do that, the "push" is in your head. Just stop doing that.
      - WiredSlumber 2y ago
        Well I use X11, because Wayland is just not there yet, at least for my particular hardware, but it is true that more and more distros come with Wayland as the default. Linux can't become more widely used, if the answer for anyone installing a wide array of distros is, if your pc has a GPU that 90% of pcs have you should immediately change this default setting. It is fine to be a power user and mess with your system, but the default configuration should have the expectation of working well on as wide array of hardware as possible.

nzeid 2y ago

Worth mentioning that I've had AMD blow up on Wayland as well, so I only have my one device with an Intel iGPU running Wayland. Everything else X11.