Where are your data proving that vim offers 'no real gains' (or as you intimated in another thread, that it is actually counterproductive to use vim)? I'm puzz

Where are your data proving that vim offers 'no real gains' (or as you intimated in another thread, that it is actually counterproductive to use vim)? I'm puzzled at how you can ask about 'gains' and at the same time, discourage comparing vim to anything else. Isn't your question about relative advantage? If you disqualify things like startup time, portability, and plugins you are now talking about a meaningless comparison. Those are real features vim has and you are just trying to exclude them in an effort to tilt toward your predetermined conclusion that vim is bad.