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The Quakers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-making https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-making
by carapace 2y ago
The Quakers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-making https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-making
- lurking15 2y agoI think it's really naive to think that Quakers were somehow immune to basic power structures found in every society. Even emphasizing consensus as an ideal or practice doesn't mean there aren't the same oligarchic structures and power brokers you find everywhere else.
- carapace 2y agoClearly you've never hung out with Quakers. You asked for a counter-example, I provided one, you dismiss it with no evidence. Truly has it been said, "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."
- AndrewKemendo 2y agoI’ve found in this debate - and most - that almost nobody holds a position from first principles but rather an experience they had. Not possible to reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason into
- lurking15 2y agoThere’s a certain sort of left leaning person who’d be triggered by reading about elite theory and oligarchy and I suspect that’s what I’m up against but sure impugn me as unprincipled.