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That is very depending on the country and the provider and if you have a contract. It’s quite a complex situation.

ljf 2y ago
In the UK - even at the 'worst' public charging, mile for mile - it is still cheaper to charge up than to drive a petrol or diesel car - and that isn't taking into account the reduced running costs of an electric car. If you can do the majority of your charging at home, then it is significantly cheaper - but even someone without a home charging set up will find it is cheaper to run an electric car in the UK.
- thedrbrian 2y ago
  > In the UK - even at the 'worst' public charging, mile for mile - it is still cheaper to charge up than to drive a petrol or diesel car - and that isn't taking into account the reduced running costs of an electric car. X. BP currently charge £0.65 per kwh and if a car gets 4 miles per kwh the you’re paying 16.25p per mile So my car getting thrashed at 42 mpg using £1.36 Costco petrol costs about 14.7p per mile And that’s not taking into account any of the finance , insurance or anything else. Or that fuel tax is about 80% of the petrol cost.
berkes 2y ago
But: in almost all situations filling up electrons is cheaper than gas. It ranges from "electricity will cost you a little more per kilometer than gas" (very rare) to "electricity is slightly cheaper than gas" (most common) to "filling up your car with electricity gets you money back". (rare, but more common last year) For Americans: My 1984 VW does 1l/8.5km. A full tank costs me over €95 in the Netherlands, and over €70 in neighboring countries. Driving to do a week surfing in France (2x1500km) costs me over €800 in petrol.
- qwytw 2y ago
  > "filling up your car with electricity gets you money back". (rare, but more common last year) At home? Sure. Public chargers can have pretty significant margins, though.
- manuelmoreale 2y ago
  You also picked a car with an abysmal efficiency though so I’m not sure how useful that is as a datapoint. I can do roughly 1000km with one full tank so the math in my case if I was doing your 2x1500km would be around 200€ based on current prices.
  - berkes 2y ago
    It's not representive, sure. Just painting a picture. European cars are (were?) more fuel efficient than US ones. I guess, partly because of the price of petrol in Europe. There are Dodge Rams, oversized SUVs and other rediculously inefficient cars driving on dutch roads, but far less common than in the US.

ljf 2y ago

In the UK - even at the 'worst' public charging, mile for mile - it is still cheaper to charge up than to drive a petrol or diesel car - and that isn't taking into account the reduced running costs of an electric car. If you can do the majority of your charging at home, then it is significantly cheaper - but even someone without a home charging set up will find it is cheaper to run an electric car in the UK.

thedrbrian 2y ago
> In the UK - even at the 'worst' public charging, mile for mile - it is still cheaper to charge up than to drive a petrol or diesel car - and that isn't taking into account the reduced running costs of an electric car. X. BP currently charge £0.65 per kwh and if a car gets 4 miles per kwh the you’re paying 16.25p per mile So my car getting thrashed at 42 mpg using £1.36 Costco petrol costs about 14.7p per mile And that’s not taking into account any of the finance , insurance or anything else. Or that fuel tax is about 80% of the petrol cost.

berkes 2y ago

But: in almost all situations filling up electrons is cheaper than gas. It ranges from "electricity will cost you a little more per kilometer than gas" (very rare) to "electricity is slightly cheaper than gas" (most common) to "filling up your car with electricity gets you money back". (rare, but more common last year) For Americans: My 1984 VW does 1l/8.5km. A full tank costs me over €95 in the Netherlands, and over €70 in neighboring countries. Driving to do a week surfing in France (2x1500km) costs me over €800 in petrol.

qwytw 2y ago
> "filling up your car with electricity gets you money back". (rare, but more common last year) At home? Sure. Public chargers can have pretty significant margins, though.
manuelmoreale 2y ago
You also picked a car with an abysmal efficiency though so I’m not sure how useful that is as a datapoint. I can do roughly 1000km with one full tank so the math in my case if I was doing your 2x1500km would be around 200€ based on current prices.
- berkes 2y ago
  It's not representive, sure. Just painting a picture. European cars are (were?) more fuel efficient than US ones. I guess, partly because of the price of petrol in Europe. There are Dodge Rams, oversized SUVs and other rediculously inefficient cars driving on dutch roads, but far less common than in the US.