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> The Netherlands has 169.216 public charge points, representing 19,5% of Europe’s total network. Interesting, considering it's also the most bicycle friendly

> The Netherlands has 169.216 public charge points, representing 19,5% of Europe’s total network. Interesting, considering it's also the most bicycle friendly country in the world. I wonder if they feel like they have enough charge points now.

vondur 2y ago
I'd like to see the .216 charging station.
- KingOfCoders 2y ago
  Not sure you're joking (Europe vs. US decimal point usage etc.), which would be fine of course, in the case you didn't it's 169216 charging stations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator (on the map of that article you can basically see the British Empire)
  - TheRealPomax 2y ago
    The joke in this case being "reading an English comment" rather than Europe vs. US: the decimal point is part of all flavours of written English, not just the US.
    - KingOfCoders 2y ago
      Yes, see the link, but as I assume most of the English speaking readers here are from the US (I might be wrong of course), I wrote US.
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- mih 2y ago
  Not sure if this is a joke or serious. For those unfamiliar, period (.) is used as the thousands separator in European countries, whereas much of the world uses the comma (,). The case for the decimal separator is switched. So 69.76 would be written as 69,76 in Europe.
  - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
    It depends where in Europe ;) Switzerland, Liechtenstein and United Kingdom use decimal point.
    - nottorp 2y ago
      In Romania the comma should be the decimal separator in theory. In practice my online banking uses the dot, and doesn't accept commas anywhere. And it's a Romanian bank with a homemade web interface. I just checked 3 random paper receipts i had lying around (from different stores), two use the comma and one the dot.
      - maest 2y ago
        The French, on the other hand, religiously use the comma as a decimal separator.
    - Aaronmacaron 2y ago
      In Switzerland we mostly use the format 12'345'678.901 Obviously I'm biased but I think it's the best system because there's no room for confusion.
      - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
        But you do use a decimal point. Liechtenstein uses exactly the same format.
      - ido 2y ago
        Interesting! Does it differ in different languages? I assumed German Swiss will use the same system as Germany, French Swiss the same in French, etc.
  - mrighele 2y ago
    It's not much of the world, it about "the former British empire", and the world is more or less split in half (check the wikipedia link that one of the sibling comments posted) I think that the best approach is to avoid to use comma or period as a thousand separator and just consider both of them as a decimal separator. It seems that the recommended approach for digit grouping is just a thin space [1], but since that character is not something that you can find on a regular keyboard and the regular space can be too wide, I think that one of the alternatives (like the apostrophe) is fine too. 169.216 or 169.216 can both be ambiguous , 169 216 and 169'216 or 169_216 much less [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#Digit_grouping https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#Digit_groupi...
sigio 2y ago
There might be enough, but there are still lots of places with hardly any. As stated in the report, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, The Hague and Utrecht are in the top 10, but many smaller towns are still mostly devoid of chargers (outside private property). Given that the country is not that big, and tesla superchargers are open to all vehicules here, there is usually a cheap and fast supercharger available within range. And in general, these are cheaper than AC-chargers in most locations, sometimes even cheaper than home-charging.
rad_gruchalski 2y ago
> Interesting, considering it's also the most bicycle friendly country in the world. Yes, but they also have for example a 5 lane highway from Utrecht to Amsterdam and it gets packed solid every now and then.
atsjie 2y ago
No. Two charging points near my home but always occupied. We need more. It's stopping me from buying an EV actually since I can't charge it reliably.
sebazzz 2y ago
Lots of muncipalities have a charge point program, allowing citizens to request charge points, and if several requests come in for the same neigbourhood a charge point is placed (from a commercial provider)

vondur 2y ago

I'd like to see the .216 charging station.

KingOfCoders 2y ago
Not sure you're joking (Europe vs. US decimal point usage etc.), which would be fine of course, in the case you didn't it's 169216 charging stations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator (on the map of that article you can basically see the British Empire)
- TheRealPomax 2y ago
  The joke in this case being "reading an English comment" rather than Europe vs. US: the decimal point is part of all flavours of written English, not just the US.
  - KingOfCoders 2y ago
    Yes, see the link, but as I assume most of the English speaking readers here are from the US (I might be wrong of course), I wrote US.
- deleted 2y ago
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mih 2y ago
Not sure if this is a joke or serious. For those unfamiliar, period (.) is used as the thousands separator in European countries, whereas much of the world uses the comma (,). The case for the decimal separator is switched. So 69.76 would be written as 69,76 in Europe.
- rad_gruchalski 2y ago
  It depends where in Europe ;) Switzerland, Liechtenstein and United Kingdom use decimal point.
  - nottorp 2y ago
    In Romania the comma should be the decimal separator in theory. In practice my online banking uses the dot, and doesn't accept commas anywhere. And it's a Romanian bank with a homemade web interface. I just checked 3 random paper receipts i had lying around (from different stores), two use the comma and one the dot.
    - maest 2y ago
      The French, on the other hand, religiously use the comma as a decimal separator.
  - Aaronmacaron 2y ago
    In Switzerland we mostly use the format 12'345'678.901 Obviously I'm biased but I think it's the best system because there's no room for confusion.
    - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
      But you do use a decimal point. Liechtenstein uses exactly the same format.
    - ido 2y ago
      Interesting! Does it differ in different languages? I assumed German Swiss will use the same system as Germany, French Swiss the same in French, etc.
- mrighele 2y ago
  It's not much of the world, it about "the former British empire", and the world is more or less split in half (check the wikipedia link that one of the sibling comments posted) I think that the best approach is to avoid to use comma or period as a thousand separator and just consider both of them as a decimal separator. It seems that the recommended approach for digit grouping is just a thin space [1], but since that character is not something that you can find on a regular keyboard and the regular space can be too wide, I think that one of the alternatives (like the apostrophe) is fine too. 169.216 or 169.216 can both be ambiguous , 169 216 and 169'216 or 169_216 much less [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#Digit_grouping https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#Digit_groupi...

sigio 2y ago

There might be enough, but there are still lots of places with hardly any. As stated in the report, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, The Hague and Utrecht are in the top 10, but many smaller towns are still mostly devoid of chargers (outside private property). Given that the country is not that big, and tesla superchargers are open to all vehicules here, there is usually a cheap and fast supercharger available within range. And in general, these are cheaper than AC-chargers in most locations, sometimes even cheaper than home-charging.

rad_gruchalski 2y ago

> Interesting, considering it's also the most bicycle friendly country in the world. Yes, but they also have for example a 5 lane highway from Utrecht to Amsterdam and it gets packed solid every now and then.

atsjie 2y ago

No. Two charging points near my home but always occupied. We need more. It's stopping me from buying an EV actually since I can't charge it reliably.

sebazzz 2y ago

Lots of muncipalities have a charge point program, allowing citizens to request charge points, and if several requests come in for the same neigbourhood a charge point is placed (from a commercial provider)