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thanks, i'm bad at abbreviations and don't like when people just throw them like this without first using the whole term at least once

by noobr 2y ago

plorkyeran 2y ago
Expanding this abbreviation conveys zero information. It’s a programming language named ML, and if you haven’t heard of it then giving the etymology of the name isn’t going to help.
- duckmysick 2y ago
  It clarifies it's not something else I've heard of (markup language, machine learning). The ML abbreviation shares the space with other terms so it can be confusing. Compare it to HTML which is 1) more popular and 2) unique in the context of programming.
- jamwil 2y ago
  Huh? If I search ‘Meta Language’ I get the exact information I need. If I search ‘ML’ I get less than nothing.
- juneyi 2y ago
  > Expanding this abbreviation conveys zero information. It’s a programming language named ML, and if you haven’t heard of it then giving the etymology of the name isn’t going to help. Honestly kind of shocked to see this type of mentality...wow.
thiht 2y ago
This is indeed an abbreviation, but it doesn’t convey meaning. At this point ML is just the name of the thing, it could not expand to anything and still convey the same meaning. If you don’t know ML, knowing what it stands for won’t help you. It’s like JS, either you know what JS is or you don’t. It’s not about what it means, it’s about what it is.
- BlueTemplar 2y ago
  You are forgetting that looking up abbreviations of 3 characters is already very hard, and it becomes almost impossible for the 2 character ones.
  - thiht 2y ago
    It’s usually not when there’s some context. > A large part of why many people love Rust is that it's the first time they've used an ML family language. You wouldn’t search "ML" but "ML family language". Or copy paste the whole thing and ask ChatGPT what ML means in this context.

thanks, i'm bad at abbreviations and don't like when people just throw them like this without first using the whole term at least once

by noobr 2y ago

thanks, i'm bad at abbreviations and don't like when people just throw them like this without first using the whole term at least once

plorkyeran 2y ago

Expanding this abbreviation conveys zero information. It’s a programming language named ML, and if you haven’t heard of it then giving the etymology of the name isn’t going to help.

duckmysick 2y ago
It clarifies it's not something else I've heard of (markup language, machine learning). The ML abbreviation shares the space with other terms so it can be confusing. Compare it to HTML which is 1) more popular and 2) unique in the context of programming.
jamwil 2y ago
Huh? If I search ‘Meta Language’ I get the exact information I need. If I search ‘ML’ I get less than nothing.
juneyi 2y ago
> Expanding this abbreviation conveys zero information. It’s a programming language named ML, and if you haven’t heard of it then giving the etymology of the name isn’t going to help. Honestly kind of shocked to see this type of mentality...wow.

thiht 2y ago

This is indeed an abbreviation, but it doesn’t convey meaning. At this point ML is just the name of the thing, it could not expand to anything and still convey the same meaning. If you don’t know ML, knowing what it stands for won’t help you. It’s like JS, either you know what JS is or you don’t. It’s not about what it means, it’s about what it is.

BlueTemplar 2y ago
You are forgetting that looking up abbreviations of 3 characters is already very hard, and it becomes almost impossible for the 2 character ones.
- thiht 2y ago
  It’s usually not when there’s some context. > A large part of why many people love Rust is that it's the first time they've used an ML family language. You wouldn’t search "ML" but "ML family language". Or copy paste the whole thing and ask ChatGPT what ML means in this context.