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Read it again. > behaviors perpetuated by men – even those men Blaming all men, twice! If you’re still confused, compare: > violence perpetuated by blacks -

by tomp 2y ago

Read it again. > behaviors perpetuated by men – even those men Blaming all men, twice! If you’re still confused, compare: > violence perpetuated by blacks - even those blacks > terrorism perpetuated by Muslims - even those Muslims > world controlled by Jews - even those Jews Society is blind to sexism against men, but quite sensitive to bigotry against blacks and Jews, so it’s easier to see if you replace a few words…

hiimkeks 2y ago
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- card_zero 2y ago
  Well domestic, emotional and mental labor aren't goods, they're services. And I didn't know what emotional labor was supposed to mean, so I read the linked blog post, and it seems to be saying that women who are angry because men won't listen to them have no duty to listen to men who are angry because women were angry at them; also that the author is in principle prepared to have a reasonable and constructive discussion about this under theoretical circumstances. So, I don't know, that's probably true, but the whole business is rotten from start to finish and I'm going to the park now to feed peanuts to squirrels and crows, until some angry human tells me I shouldn't.
  - sneak 2y ago
    Emotional labor, per the feminist that originally coined the term, is actual paid work (“labor” in the traditional sense) that involves presenting or maintaining certain emotions: think a customer service rep, or a waitress. It has been repurposed by the radfem movement to mean something else. That something else is not super well defined but it has something to do with the coddling that unstable men presumably require to not retaliate against women.
- Jensson 2y ago
  It says "even those men that claim to support and love women", so its not just "men", it really looks like she means all men.
- Saturnial22 2y ago
  Just to be clear what happened here, he made the point that if such sweeping negative stereotypes of other groups were thrown about it would be shocking and unacceptable, and your rebuttal(?) is that his examples are shocking and unacceptable and so you won't respond..? QED, I guess.

by tomp 2y ago

hiimkeks 2y ago

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card_zero 2y ago
Well domestic, emotional and mental labor aren't goods, they're services. And I didn't know what emotional labor was supposed to mean, so I read the linked blog post, and it seems to be saying that women who are angry because men won't listen to them have no duty to listen to men who are angry because women were angry at them; also that the author is in principle prepared to have a reasonable and constructive discussion about this under theoretical circumstances. So, I don't know, that's probably true, but the whole business is rotten from start to finish and I'm going to the park now to feed peanuts to squirrels and crows, until some angry human tells me I shouldn't.
- sneak 2y ago
  Emotional labor, per the feminist that originally coined the term, is actual paid work (“labor” in the traditional sense) that involves presenting or maintaining certain emotions: think a customer service rep, or a waitress. It has been repurposed by the radfem movement to mean something else. That something else is not super well defined but it has something to do with the coddling that unstable men presumably require to not retaliate against women.
Jensson 2y ago
It says "even those men that claim to support and love women", so its not just "men", it really looks like she means all men.
Saturnial22 2y ago
Just to be clear what happened here, he made the point that if such sweeping negative stereotypes of other groups were thrown about it would be shocking and unacceptable, and your rebuttal(?) is that his examples are shocking and unacceptable and so you won't respond..? QED, I guess.