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The report button always existed. That's not what French police wants from him - they want to be able to listen to private (group) chats and to get IPs and phon

The report button always existed. That's not what French police wants from him - they want to be able to listen to private (group) chats and to get IPs and phone numbers of participants.

afiori 2y ago
Did it also exist on non 1-1 chats and groups?
- miohtama 2y ago
  It did
llamaimperative 2y ago
Why is the first sentence this then: > Telegram has quietly removed language from its FAQ page that said private chats were protected from moderation requests Was the FAQ incorrect? Is the Verge lying about what the FAQ said?
- miohtama 2y ago
  Verge is lying what FAQ said and says today, because they did not check the source.
  - llamaimperative 2y ago
    This seems pretty different to me? From https://telegram.org/faq https://telegram.org/faq July 17 2024 from Wayback Machine > Q: There's illegal content on Telegram. How do I take it down? > All Telegram chats and group chats are private amongst their participants. We do not process any requests related to them. But sticker sets, channels, and bots on Telegram are publicly available. If you find sticker sets or bots on Telegram that you think are illegal, please ping us at abuse@telegram.org. You can also use the 'report' buttons right inside our apps, see this post on our official @ISISwatch channel for details. [Emphasis mine] Today > Q: There's illegal content on Telegram. How do I take it down? > All Telegram apps have 'Report' buttons that let you flag illegal content for our moderators — in just a few taps. On Telegram for Android, tap the message and select Report from the menu. On iOS, press and hold the message. On Telegram Desktop, Web or Telegram for macOS, right-click the message and select Report. Then choose an appropriate reason. You can also use our automated takedown email address abuse@telegram.org. If you're sending an email takedown request, please make sure to include links (like t.me/... or @...) to the content on Telegram which you think needs attention from our moderators. Users from the EU are welcome to study the User Guidance for the EU Digital Services Act for the relevant reporting options.
    - miohtama 2y ago
      Here is from Telegram https://twitter.com/telegram/status/1831976606081953870 https://twitter.com/telegram/status/1831976606081953870
      - llamaimperative 2y ago
        The question of whether the buttons are there or whether the code changed is irrelevant. The FAQ said that reports aren’t processed, not that you can’t make them. “Private chats are still private” doesn’t mean the same thing as “reports will still be ignored,” nor does it mean “reports will be processed.” Unsurprisingly, it looks to me like a deceptive company caught in a legal predicament is acting deceptively. The FAQ was unambiguous about NOT moderating private chats. Now the FAQ (and this tweet) are, at best, ambiguous as to the moderation behavior. Shill somewhere else.
- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago
  In 1:1 chats the report button is for reporting spam, not for human moderation. In anybody wrote to you first, you could press the report button and the sender would get an automatic 1 week ban.

The report button always existed. That's not what French police wants from him - they want to be able to listen to private (group) chats and to get IPs and phone numbers of participants.

afiori 2y ago

Did it also exist on non 1-1 chats and groups?

miohtama 2y ago
It did

llamaimperative 2y ago

Why is the first sentence this then: > Telegram has quietly removed language from its FAQ page that said private chats were protected from moderation requests Was the FAQ incorrect? Is the Verge lying about what the FAQ said?

miohtama 2y ago
Verge is lying what FAQ said and says today, because they did not check the source.
- llamaimperative 2y ago
  This seems pretty different to me? From https://telegram.org/faq https://telegram.org/faq July 17 2024 from Wayback Machine > Q: There's illegal content on Telegram. How do I take it down? > All Telegram chats and group chats are private amongst their participants. We do not process any requests related to them. But sticker sets, channels, and bots on Telegram are publicly available. If you find sticker sets or bots on Telegram that you think are illegal, please ping us at abuse@telegram.org. You can also use the 'report' buttons right inside our apps, see this post on our official @ISISwatch channel for details. [Emphasis mine] Today > Q: There's illegal content on Telegram. How do I take it down? > All Telegram apps have 'Report' buttons that let you flag illegal content for our moderators — in just a few taps. On Telegram for Android, tap the message and select Report from the menu. On iOS, press and hold the message. On Telegram Desktop, Web or Telegram for macOS, right-click the message and select Report. Then choose an appropriate reason. You can also use our automated takedown email address abuse@telegram.org. If you're sending an email takedown request, please make sure to include links (like t.me/... or @...) to the content on Telegram which you think needs attention from our moderators. Users from the EU are welcome to study the User Guidance for the EU Digital Services Act for the relevant reporting options.
  - miohtama 2y ago
    Here is from Telegram https://twitter.com/telegram/status/1831976606081953870 https://twitter.com/telegram/status/1831976606081953870
    - llamaimperative 2y ago
      The question of whether the buttons are there or whether the code changed is irrelevant. The FAQ said that reports aren’t processed, not that you can’t make them. “Private chats are still private” doesn’t mean the same thing as “reports will still be ignored,” nor does it mean “reports will be processed.” Unsurprisingly, it looks to me like a deceptive company caught in a legal predicament is acting deceptively. The FAQ was unambiguous about NOT moderating private chats. Now the FAQ (and this tweet) are, at best, ambiguous as to the moderation behavior. Shill somewhere else.
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago
In 1:1 chats the report button is for reporting spam, not for human moderation. In anybody wrote to you first, you could press the report button and the sender would get an automatic 1 week ban.