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I feel that I have an interesting relationship to this mentality. Many of the most impressive people I've known and looked up to in my career have been far from
by noirbot 2y ago
I feel that I have an interesting relationship to this mentality. Many of the most impressive people I've known and looked up to in my career have been far from rewarded for the competence and confidence they brought to my workplaces. Indeed, I've seen a few of them fired, and some of them sidelined for years despite being appreciated and referred. I'm even cautious about referring them because, while impressive, they were brash and bold in ways that put them quickly at odds with their organizations.
We don't always, or even mostly, or often ever, work at an organization that wants to be impressed by their engineers, no matter how much they say they do. The sorts of places that actually do foster that are rare and all but impossible to get hired at. I don't have the luxury of working at somewhere where I'm impressed by my coworkers and look up to them. My career and mental health isn't comfortable or sustainable.
I'd love to fix this, but in the meantime, I often literally don't get to pick my manager and how they interact with me or value my team's work and priorities. I can tell you that the engineers who most impressed me and were appreciated by me were often not by management, and not brought onto projects. It may not be hard to be one, but it's often hard to keep being one.
- BostonFern 2y agoCan you give an example of the brash and bold behavior you’re referring to?
- brigandish 2y agoSo true. It seems to me that many companies' actions do not align with their ostensible mission, and this is reflected in the way many of their management act. They're not that interested in competing in the market, they find a level and settle there. It's the same for people - most don't want to work harder, and most don't want to work better, and those that do are disruptive to those that don't, and that includes managers. The reward, the real mission, is long term, stable income without risk, not grabbing more of the market by being faster or better. Competition is the answer, but no one seems to like that.