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And the thread overall is about EVs being drastically simpler machines give them an insurmountable long term advantage to the point that ICE will become anachro

And the thread overall is about EVs being drastically simpler machines give them an insurmountable long term advantage to the point that ICE will become anachronistic, and hybrids are even worse than ICE for their complexity. The environmental angle is a non-sequitur. I would note that EVs are much more likely to have a minimal environmental impact over time as the requisite is electrical storage, not a specific way to store electricity. As electro magnetism is a fundamental property of the universe the ways we achieve that are limitless. Carbon based fuel is pretty much the only meaningful ICE option so there’s not much to improve on there beyond marginal efficiency gains. (I mean I guess we could use liquid fuels like oxygen and hydrogen but that seems unlikely). N.b,. Hydrogen fuel cells are still electric vehicles.

defrost 2y ago
> I would note that EVs are much more likely to have a minimal environmental impact over time That would be the ideal goal but we (globally) have good way to go yet. > I mean I guess we could use liquid fuels like oxygen and hydrogen .. Pragmatically it'd be hydrogen (maybe) in transport trucking on established routes (to minimise infrastructure) and green hydrogen products (ammonia | methanol) for bulk carrier distance transportation to generate central station power (in, say, European winters) for use in EV's. There's no Engineering (civil | mechanical) upside to hydrogen liquid|gas in mass numbers of small personal vehicles - too slippery to handle with stringent safety requirements to avoid issues with a billion small deployments.