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> It was for other reasons that usually included frustrations with management. and here I am thinking this was a meme by HR myself and all my competition leav

> It was for other reasons that usually included frustrations with management. and here I am thinking this was a meme by HR myself and all my competition leave jobs due to - and for - money. if you're sticking around to stay in graces of your comfortable management you are contributing to the wage gap for your respective gender in the wrong direction.

BadHumans 2y ago
> if you're sticking around to stay in graces of your comfortable management you are contributing to the wage gap for your respective gender in the wrong direction. I have no idea why I should care about this.
- yieldcrv 2y ago
  privileged take
  - ipaddr 2y ago
    Wage gap for gender? There are a lot of things in life to fight for. But to fight for a meaningless stat that doesn't take into account pregnancy is probably not the best use of my limited power.
  - david38 2y ago
    [flagged]
_yb2s 2y ago
A job with good management and a good work environment is hard to find… that is worth lower pay to a lot of people. I’m a person with tech skills in academia… myself and most of my coworkers and colleagues could make at least 2x in industry yet we’re still here because we like the job better. I have however lost a lot of colleagues.
- BirAdam 2y ago
  I make “okay” pay at a non-profit, and I could make more if I left. However, I would then have more hours, more stress, and less freedom. Why do that?
wsc981 2y ago
For me it's the same. I'd be ok if management is crappy, but the pay is good. I actually left a company this year, because I was looking for (what I thought) was a very reasonable raise, but the company made negotiations very hard and annoying: - first meeting with direct manager: I was offered a very meager immediate increase and offered a "personal improvement plan" for proper raise end of the year (I declined - I hate this nonsense and I know I'm already a senior, no need to work towards "senior"). - then 2 times a meeting was planned with the CEO, but CEO wouldn't show up. He stated both times something came up, apparently more important. When I announced my decision to leave, at that point suddenly more was possible. I could get the raise I wanted, CEO excused himself for his behavior, etc... But at that point, too much harm was done, from my point of view. I would have stayed easily 1 or 2 more years if the pay was decent and I didn't have to deal with the nonsense for salary negotiations.

BadHumans 2y ago

> if you're sticking around to stay in graces of your comfortable management you are contributing to the wage gap for your respective gender in the wrong direction. I have no idea why I should care about this.

yieldcrv 2y ago
privileged take
- ipaddr 2y ago
  Wage gap for gender? There are a lot of things in life to fight for. But to fight for a meaningless stat that doesn't take into account pregnancy is probably not the best use of my limited power.
- david38 2y ago
  [flagged]

_yb2s 2y ago

A job with good management and a good work environment is hard to find… that is worth lower pay to a lot of people. I’m a person with tech skills in academia… myself and most of my coworkers and colleagues could make at least 2x in industry yet we’re still here because we like the job better. I have however lost a lot of colleagues.

BirAdam 2y ago
I make “okay” pay at a non-profit, and I could make more if I left. However, I would then have more hours, more stress, and less freedom. Why do that?

wsc981 2y ago

For me it's the same. I'd be ok if management is crappy, but the pay is good. I actually left a company this year, because I was looking for (what I thought) was a very reasonable raise, but the company made negotiations very hard and annoying: - first meeting with direct manager: I was offered a very meager immediate increase and offered a "personal improvement plan" for proper raise end of the year (I declined - I hate this nonsense and I know I'm already a senior, no need to work towards "senior"). - then 2 times a meeting was planned with the CEO, but CEO wouldn't show up. He stated both times something came up, apparently more important. When I announced my decision to leave, at that point suddenly more was possible. I could get the raise I wanted, CEO excused himself for his behavior, etc... But at that point, too much harm was done, from my point of view. I would have stayed easily 1 or 2 more years if the pay was decent and I didn't have to deal with the nonsense for salary negotiations.