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> If you're a tenant that's renting, you get no such legal protections In the USA. Many countries in Europe have renters protection similar to that of mortgage

> If you're a tenant that's renting, you get no such legal protections In the USA. Many countries in Europe have renters protection similar to that of mortgage holders.

rayiner 2y ago
Depends on where you are in the U.S. Some places have extreme renter protections. Tenants can refuse to pay rent for months before you can even start an eviction proceeding. Then it takes months more. E.g. New York. https://www.reddit.com/r/Landlord/comments/15nn6o0/landlordus_ny_how_long_does_the_eviction_process https://www.reddit.com/r/Landlord/comments/15nn6o0/landlordu.... Landlords may forgo six months of back rent just to get the tenant out of the unit.
- pnw 2y ago
  There's a renter here in Seattle that's not paid rent in two years and hasn't been evicted yet. It's not an uncommon issue. https://www.newsweek.com/squatter-forces-landlord-out-home-washington-1882028 https://www.newsweek.com/squatter-forces-landlord-out-home-w...
- HarryHirsch 2y ago
  Meanwhile in Alabama the only recourse you have against a landowner who rents you something not habitable is to move out. American law generally is very bad at compelling a party to uphold a contract.
- throwaway2037 2y ago
  In my experience, the worse the winter weather, the stronger the tenant laws. The goal is to prevent eviction during winter months.
pkaye 2y ago
How long can renters go without paying their rent in those countries?
- alphager 2y ago
  In Germany, the process to evict may start after three months of unpaid rent. The eviction process itself takes about two years.
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  - throwaway2037 2y ago
    Real question: Do landlords resort to "hired help" to encourage non-paying tenants to leave more quickly? Two years sounds crazy. Many people who only own a second home for rent might go bankrupt without rent to pay the loan.
    - mc3301 2y ago
      I think that may be the point: to discourage owning a second home for rent.
    - badpun 2y ago
      In Poland, they sometimes do. For example, they rent the property to another person (they claim that it’s legal), who is a goon. The goon moves in with the original renter, and makes his life hell. Other paths are to disconnect electricity from the property, by cancelling the contract with electric provider. However, some people are ok with living without power, if the apartment is free. Next steps are - disconnecting water and/or heating, although these are less legal than disconnecting power. There also was a tragic case of an older lady who resisted being evicted from a building in Warsaw bought by a new owner, who in turn kidnapped her, drove to city outskirts and burned her alive to get rid of her.

> If you're a tenant that's renting, you get no such legal protections In the USA. Many countries in Europe have renters protection similar to that of mortgage holders.

rayiner 2y ago

Depends on where you are in the U.S. Some places have extreme renter protections. Tenants can refuse to pay rent for months before you can even start an eviction proceeding. Then it takes months more. E.g. New York. https://www.reddit.com/r/Landlord/comments/15nn6o0/landlordus_ny_how_long_does_the_eviction_process https://www.reddit.com/r/Landlord/comments/15nn6o0/landlordu.... Landlords may forgo six months of back rent just to get the tenant out of the unit.

pnw 2y ago
There's a renter here in Seattle that's not paid rent in two years and hasn't been evicted yet. It's not an uncommon issue. https://www.newsweek.com/squatter-forces-landlord-out-home-washington-1882028 https://www.newsweek.com/squatter-forces-landlord-out-home-w...
HarryHirsch 2y ago
Meanwhile in Alabama the only recourse you have against a landowner who rents you something not habitable is to move out. American law generally is very bad at compelling a party to uphold a contract.
throwaway2037 2y ago
In my experience, the worse the winter weather, the stronger the tenant laws. The goal is to prevent eviction during winter months.

pkaye 2y ago

How long can renters go without paying their rent in those countries?

alphager 2y ago
In Germany, the process to evict may start after three months of unpaid rent. The eviction process itself takes about two years.
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- throwaway2037 2y ago
  Real question: Do landlords resort to "hired help" to encourage non-paying tenants to leave more quickly? Two years sounds crazy. Many people who only own a second home for rent might go bankrupt without rent to pay the loan.
  - mc3301 2y ago
    I think that may be the point: to discourage owning a second home for rent.
  - badpun 2y ago
    In Poland, they sometimes do. For example, they rent the property to another person (they claim that it’s legal), who is a goon. The goon moves in with the original renter, and makes his life hell. Other paths are to disconnect electricity from the property, by cancelling the contract with electric provider. However, some people are ok with living without power, if the apartment is free. Next steps are - disconnecting water and/or heating, although these are less legal than disconnecting power. There also was a tragic case of an older lady who resisted being evicted from a building in Warsaw bought by a new owner, who in turn kidnapped her, drove to city outskirts and burned her alive to get rid of her.