These setups are frankly asinine. Often come with another contractor and an entirely separate org to handle service/support. And then management wonders why rel

These setups are frankly asinine. Often come with another contractor and an entirely separate org to handle service/support. And then management wonders why relatively simple applications take forever to ship, changes take even longer and operating costs are astronomic ("back in the day four guys could do this" - they still can, you just don't let them).