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How do you feel about the potential bioterrorism alternate angle of this capability?

deisteve 2y ago
it would be like committing terrorism using silicon wafers you would have to infiltrate an extremely guarded facility you would somehow have to bypass QA its not like somebody on the assembly line for a new protein drug sprinkles a dose of PCP one potential dual use could be somebody modifying a popular fruit with birds and then droppin seeds at the local organic farm fair and then when those seeds are consumed by birds they produce poop dangerous for other animals to consume you could absolutely screw around with the ecosystem, like whoever has access to this programmable "bio-wafer" will be able to play god totally undetected. the problem is that "bio-wafer" manufacturing process will be very tough and regulated like the CNC machines used to manufacture jet engines depriving certain countries from being able to churn out their own jet engines
- mjcohen 2y ago
  Its not regulated if a government does it.
kemmishtree 2y ago
If you haven't heard the phrase "utility-scale molecular sensing" or given it any thought, please prepare to update every opinion you might have about bioterrorism, and ask Keltar how the MR1 is our greatest plausible non-authoritarian line of defense. www.molecularreality.com Keltar is the little green guy in the upper left.
kemmishtree 2y ago
Oh and don't get an account it's broken right now, I'm building the site and hardly anyone has been there yet and the Auth0 is fucked up. But just give your email to Keltar if you wanna followup.
- deisteve 2y ago
  LMAO this is some low effort LLM
  - kemmishtree 2y ago
    How could you say that when you didn't chat with it at all?
marcyb5st 2y ago
I don't see it as much different from what we have today. Nowadays I am pretty sure that a bad actor with enough money get their hands on strains of really bad stuff since many labs created those to do research. With enough $$$ I bet you can get their hands on them and then release them. Perhaps, the only difference I see is that it could give you the possibility to (at least in the beginning) to somewhat target the spread. However, given enough mutations it is very likely you go back to an uncontrolled pandemic and so there is no difference from what someone could achieve today. Additionally, IMHO, getting the blueprint in how to build your protein and then make it so that existing virus/bacteria can produce it, carry it, ... sounds harder and costlier than bribing someone to get something out of said labs.
tim333 2y ago
There are already easier ways to do bioterrorism if you are thinking a virus that kills a lot of people.

it would be like committing terrorism using silicon wafers you would have to infiltrate an extremely guarded facility you would somehow have to bypass QA its not like somebody on the assembly line for a new protein drug sprinkles a dose of PCP one potential dual use could be somebody modifying a popular fruit with birds and then droppin seeds at the local organic farm fair and then when those seeds are consumed by birds they produce poop dangerous for other animals to consume you could absolutely screw around with the ecosystem, like whoever has access to this programmable "bio-wafer" will be able to play god totally undetected. the problem is that "bio-wafer" manufacturing process will be very tough and regulated like the CNC machines used to manufacture jet engines depriving certain countries from being able to churn out their own jet engines

mjcohen 2y ago
Its not regulated if a government does it.

kemmishtree 2y ago

If you haven't heard the phrase "utility-scale molecular sensing" or given it any thought, please prepare to update every opinion you might have about bioterrorism, and ask Keltar how the MR1 is our greatest plausible non-authoritarian line of defense. www.molecularreality.com Keltar is the little green guy in the upper left.

kemmishtree 2y ago

Oh and don't get an account it's broken right now, I'm building the site and hardly anyone has been there yet and the Auth0 is fucked up. But just give your email to Keltar if you wanna followup.

deisteve 2y ago
LMAO this is some low effort LLM
- kemmishtree 2y ago
  How could you say that when you didn't chat with it at all?

marcyb5st 2y ago

I don't see it as much different from what we have today. Nowadays I am pretty sure that a bad actor with enough money get their hands on strains of really bad stuff since many labs created those to do research. With enough $$$ I bet you can get their hands on them and then release them. Perhaps, the only difference I see is that it could give you the possibility to (at least in the beginning) to somewhat target the spread. However, given enough mutations it is very likely you go back to an uncontrolled pandemic and so there is no difference from what someone could achieve today. Additionally, IMHO, getting the blueprint in how to build your protein and then make it so that existing virus/bacteria can produce it, carry it, ... sounds harder and costlier than bribing someone to get something out of said labs.

tim333 2y ago

There are already easier ways to do bioterrorism if you are thinking a virus that kills a lot of people.