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Interesting, I've used Spotify for years and didn't even know you can even use it for free with ads- I would never do that, but it is pretty awesome that you c

by _yb2s 2y ago

Interesting, I've used Spotify for years and didn't even know you can even use it for free with ads- I would never do that, but it is pretty awesome that you can! I pay about $8.50/month (my half of a 2-person account) for unlimited access to any music I want with zero ads... seems like a great deal to me. I don't see any sign of "enshittification," "tragedy," or "exploitation" - just lots of good music for a low price- which was impossible before Spotify existed. I mean, if people value their time so little, they probably simply couldn't afford even that tiny fee, so at least they get to listen to music they like, instead of listening to ads on the radio with music they can't choose. I don't get why people think not offering something valuable and expensive to provide for free is evil or a tragedy. Before Spotify that sort of budget would have paid for maybe ~6 new legal albums per year which I couldn't listen to before I bought, so many would end up not being listened to. Now the same budget allows me to listen to anything I want anytime- and the money goes to the artists I like in proportion to how much I actually like them instead of how much I expected to like them before I actually got to listen. That seems like the opposite of a tragedy.

johnnyanmac 2y ago
> I would never do that, but it is pretty awesome that you can! we haven't been in the same tech industry the last decade, have we? >I don't see any sign of "enshittification," "tragedy," or "exploitation" - just lots of good music for a low price- which was impossible before Spotify existed. I guess you aren't in the US. We just got a price bump https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/3/24170301/spotify-us-price-increase-plans https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/3/24170301/spotify-us-price-... https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/03/tech/spotify-price-increase/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/03/tech/spotify-price-increase/i... Which is the 2nd price bump this year. But this goes to the workers right? >Spotify recently increased subscription prices for international subscribers, cut costs and underwent several rounds of layoffs including drastic reductions to its podcast business. This is what happens with market capture. They run at unsustainable rates for years, and then the squeeze happens when people are too lazy to step out of the pot. And then they squeeze the workers as well by making them do more with less staff. I wish people wouldn't so easily excuse monopolization. It doesn't end well for anyone but the C-Suite. But as they say: >Nobody gives a care about the fate of labor as long as they can get their instant gratification. - Squidward Tentacles, 2001

by _yb2s 2y ago

johnnyanmac 2y ago

> I would never do that, but it is pretty awesome that you can! we haven't been in the same tech industry the last decade, have we? >I don't see any sign of "enshittification," "tragedy," or "exploitation" - just lots of good music for a low price- which was impossible before Spotify existed. I guess you aren't in the US. We just got a price bump https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/3/24170301/spotify-us-price-increase-plans https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/3/24170301/spotify-us-price-... https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/03/tech/spotify-price-increase/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/03/tech/spotify-price-increase/i... Which is the 2nd price bump this year. But this goes to the workers right? >Spotify recently increased subscription prices for international subscribers, cut costs and underwent several rounds of layoffs including drastic reductions to its podcast business. This is what happens with market capture. They run at unsustainable rates for years, and then the squeeze happens when people are too lazy to step out of the pot. And then they squeeze the workers as well by making them do more with less staff. I wish people wouldn't so easily excuse monopolization. It doesn't end well for anyone but the C-Suite. But as they say: >Nobody gives a care about the fate of labor as long as they can get their instant gratification. - Squidward Tentacles, 2001