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Uncensorable Decentralized AI
- yawpitch 2y agoSo, a CSAM engine. Well done.
- t0bia_s 2y agoYou can use knife as weapon. Or useful tool.
- yawpitch 2y agoHow do I put this so it might make sense? If you’re looking for a knife that is the same as any other knife except no one can stop you from using it in an offensive manner, the odds are you’re not looking for the tool end of that spectrum.
- t0bia_s 2y agoHow does it change the point that you are responsible for your actions? Change knife with fire.
- yawpitch 2y agoSomeone who is responsible for their actions doesn’t provide fire to an arsonist, a knife to a murderer, or an LLM capable of emitting CSAM to a pedophile. Personal responsibility doesn’t only exist on the consumer side.
- t0bia_s 2y agoLighters or knifes are avalible to buy anywhere. Does this make their manufacturer responsible for committed crimes by their products?
- yawpitch 2y agoMorally, yes, but again you’re making an incorrect analogy. Let’s evolve this into something colorable: guns are available to purchase, but the manufacturers are required to put serial numbers and safeties on those weapons. Now a new manufacturer announces guns for sale that are exactly the same as the other guns, except the serial numbers have been removed and the safeties are permanently disabled. Is the new manufacturer doing something immoral and unethical? Yes. Absolutely. Do they bear more responsibility for the crimes committed with their weapon than those manufacturers who took public safety into account? Yes. Absolutely. Have all the manufactures created a tool? Sure. Has new one created a tool for criminals? Yes. Is the new manufacturer a tool? Absolutely.
- t0bia_s 2y agoThe purpose of gun is to hurt. The purpose of uncensored AI is not. You make wrong analogy.
- yawpitch 2y agoThe purpose of a gun is to put a bullet down range, the purpose of a bullet is to put holes through things. The purpose of a safety is to keep the gun from incidentally harming someone by putting a bullet down range without the user’s express intent, while the purpose of a serial number is to facilitate tracking and convicting someone who harmed someone else with a gun. The purpose of a gun that cannot be made safe is to harm and the purpose of a gun that cannot be tracked is to put a bullet hole in a person while avoiding repercussions. The purpose of an LLM is, arguably, to answer a prompt with a statistically likely continuation of that prompt. The purpose of “censorship” is to keep that LLM from emitting answers that include harmful material — either by making it refuse to do so or by excising such material from its training data — and de-“censoring” that LLM is directly analogous to removing the safety mechanisms on a gun. The purpose of decentralized processing is to make it both harder to assign culpability for the harm and to make it more difficult to track the person causing the harm… again, directly analogous to filing the serial number off a gun, or not stamping one in to begin with. The analogy is entirely appropriate.