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> How many of these countries or their news media acknowledge the illegal and unconstitutional coup in Ukraine in 2014, which ousted a pro Russia democratically

by mopsi 2y ago

> How many of these countries or their news media acknowledge the illegal and unconstitutional coup in Ukraine in 2014, which ousted a pro Russia democratically elected president through force? There was no such thing. This "pro Russia democratically elected president" got over 100 protesters killed and with the help of Russian secret services, ran away from Ukraine after realizing that he had lost all political support in the country and would be facing jailtime. Ukrainian parliament assembled and with 328-vs-0 votes set a date for new elections, which were held soon thereafter, and results of which have been recognized by everyone, including Russia (albeit after a small delay). The loss of political support of this "democratically elected president" is best exemplified by the fact that not even a single person from his own party voted in support of him. How have you arrived at believing and redistributing complete misinformation?

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
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- mopsi 2y ago
  > Well, he “ran away” because insurrectionists were trying to kill him. Nope. He ran away because his entire political backing vanished overnight after bodies piled up. His own party disowned him and issued a statement condemning his criminal actions. From that moment on, it was clear that he would be facing criminal prosecution and a long time in jail. He chose to save his skin and run. > It also doesn’t mean anything because there is a constitutional process for impeachment, which was not followed. That makes the 2014 incident a coup. This coup is what triggered the Crimean invasion and eventually, the current conflict. There were several options for solving the crisis that Yanukovych had created. With the support of all political factions, Ukrainian parliament unanimously voted in favor of early elections. There is no reason whatsoever to call early elections a coup. Asking for renewed mandate from the electorate is the polar opposite of a small group overthrowing a government, as coup is commonly understood. As to Russia, if we go by what they've inscribed on the Crimean campaign medal, then they launched the invasion of Crimea when Yanukovych was still in office: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_%22For_the_Return_of_Crimea%22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_%22For_the_Return_of_Cri...
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- aguaviva 2y ago
  Who wouldn’t flee with gunmen shooting at them? The conditions of his departure were quite peaceful, actually. No one was "shooting" at anyone by that time. And no one was ever shooting at him. It's okay to question the received narrative of what happened about a given historical event. But I have the sense that you're doing more than just filling in gaps, here. You're basically just making stuff up.

by mopsi 2y ago

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago

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mopsi 2y ago
> Well, he “ran away” because insurrectionists were trying to kill him. Nope. He ran away because his entire political backing vanished overnight after bodies piled up. His own party disowned him and issued a statement condemning his criminal actions. From that moment on, it was clear that he would be facing criminal prosecution and a long time in jail. He chose to save his skin and run. > It also doesn’t mean anything because there is a constitutional process for impeachment, which was not followed. That makes the 2014 incident a coup. This coup is what triggered the Crimean invasion and eventually, the current conflict. There were several options for solving the crisis that Yanukovych had created. With the support of all political factions, Ukrainian parliament unanimously voted in favor of early elections. There is no reason whatsoever to call early elections a coup. Asking for renewed mandate from the electorate is the polar opposite of a small group overthrowing a government, as coup is commonly understood. As to Russia, if we go by what they've inscribed on the Crimean campaign medal, then they launched the invasion of Crimea when Yanukovych was still in office: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_%22For_the_Return_of_Crimea%22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_%22For_the_Return_of_Cri...
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aguaviva 2y ago
Who wouldn’t flee with gunmen shooting at them? The conditions of his departure were quite peaceful, actually. No one was "shooting" at anyone by that time. And no one was ever shooting at him. It's okay to question the received narrative of what happened about a given historical event. But I have the sense that you're doing more than just filling in gaps, here. You're basically just making stuff up.