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There are lots of jobs where some people choose to work the slow hours. Overnight shifts and very early mornings for example. Turns out working those kinds of h

There are lots of jobs where some people choose to work the slow hours. Overnight shifts and very early mornings for example. Turns out working those kinds of hours isn't for everyone, and companies only hire as many people as they need. At a certain point, some people are basically paid for being available when they're needed, not for the number of customers they churn through. That said, I've seen taxi drivers who got an hourly wage no matter if they got a rider or not go out of their way to get more fairs because they got tips and more hours including overtime hours.

diebeforei485 2y ago
> There are lots of jobs where some people choose to work the slow hours. And the employment agreement typically does not allow the employee to also work for a competitor during their employment. And there is nothing stopping the employer from changing or reducing the hours, unless the employment agreement has provisions about that. You might think that Uber should hire some drivers on fixed shifts because there is some baseline of demand. The issue is, in a growing number of cities, AV's play that role. There are some examples where employees have to work specific shifts but still get paid less depending on what they're doing. Notably flight attendants. They might not get paid while waiting at the airport if the plane needs maintenance prior to boarding.
- autoexec 2y ago
  > There are some examples where employees have to work specific shifts but still get paid less depending on what they're doing. That sounds reasonable, so long as their base pay is enough that they can support themselves at full time hours.
  - diebeforei485 2y ago
    Flight attendants get paid $2.13 per hour while at the airport, until boarding is done. They do get paid more to fly, but it is of course a more skilled job than an Uber driver, and requires special training and testing that not everyone passes. And they cannot just work when they want to. They get assigned schedules by the airline. There might be some ability to swap a flight with other flight attendants, and there might be some sort of bidding process of varying effectiveness depending on the airline, but at the end of the day it is not a flexible role like Uber.
deepsun 2y ago
Yep, exactly the same as waiters in restaurants, or cashiers in Starbucks. Both are employees.

diebeforei485 2y ago

> There are lots of jobs where some people choose to work the slow hours. And the employment agreement typically does not allow the employee to also work for a competitor during their employment. And there is nothing stopping the employer from changing or reducing the hours, unless the employment agreement has provisions about that. You might think that Uber should hire some drivers on fixed shifts because there is some baseline of demand. The issue is, in a growing number of cities, AV's play that role. There are some examples where employees have to work specific shifts but still get paid less depending on what they're doing. Notably flight attendants. They might not get paid while waiting at the airport if the plane needs maintenance prior to boarding.

autoexec 2y ago
> There are some examples where employees have to work specific shifts but still get paid less depending on what they're doing. That sounds reasonable, so long as their base pay is enough that they can support themselves at full time hours.
- diebeforei485 2y ago
  Flight attendants get paid $2.13 per hour while at the airport, until boarding is done. They do get paid more to fly, but it is of course a more skilled job than an Uber driver, and requires special training and testing that not everyone passes. And they cannot just work when they want to. They get assigned schedules by the airline. There might be some ability to swap a flight with other flight attendants, and there might be some sort of bidding process of varying effectiveness depending on the airline, but at the end of the day it is not a flexible role like Uber.

deepsun 2y ago

Yep, exactly the same as waiters in restaurants, or cashiers in Starbucks. Both are employees.