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It does mean you can no longer choose when to work, it doesn't mean fixed shifts but it means you can't drive whenever you want since now they have obligations

It does mean you can no longer choose when to work, it doesn't mean fixed shifts but it means you can't drive whenever you want since now they have obligations towards you even when you aren't making them any money. Other jobs where you can do work whenever flexible shifts are fine, but that doesn't apply to taxi driving since there work aren't available everywhere at all times, you have to follow schedules to follow the demand since now the company has to pay you even when you don't have a passenger around.

deepsun 2y ago
So? Restaurants have to pay money to waiters even when there are no customers. It doesn't mean waiters can not be employees. They _must_ be employees. By the way, restaurants (except for few good ones, like Zazie in SF) don't pay minimum wages by offsetting it with tips. But if employee reports less tips than minimum wage for the same hours, the employer must pay the difference to bump it to minimum wage anyway.
- Jcowell 2y ago
  But it is the difference of being able to turn on the app and choose when you want and don’t want to drive vs having to work in a time box that might or might no convent for you. A waiter cannot decide to not work one day without getting approval from their bosses/managers
  - deepsun 2y ago
    Again this lie. Department of Labor does NOT require employers to enforce any schedules. Some employers do, but they might as well just make a button "check in" / "check out", available any time. DoL is fine with that. A waiter can have an agreement with their boss to work whenever they like. Boss most certainly disagree, but it's boss's decision to enforce schedules. DoL doesn't care. Boss can as well agree and put a whiteboard and let waiters check in / check out by writing on it any time. Same as Uber/Lyft can make the buttons in the app (they already do). Of course, Uber/Lyft can, at their will, enforce the fixed schedules. But it will be obviously bad for their business. And no one requires them to do it, so naturally it would be beneficial to them to not enforce any fixed schedules.

deepsun 2y ago

So? Restaurants have to pay money to waiters even when there are no customers. It doesn't mean waiters can not be employees. They _must_ be employees. By the way, restaurants (except for few good ones, like Zazie in SF) don't pay minimum wages by offsetting it with tips. But if employee reports less tips than minimum wage for the same hours, the employer must pay the difference to bump it to minimum wage anyway.

Jcowell 2y ago
But it is the difference of being able to turn on the app and choose when you want and don’t want to drive vs having to work in a time box that might or might no convent for you. A waiter cannot decide to not work one day without getting approval from their bosses/managers
- deepsun 2y ago
  Again this lie. Department of Labor does NOT require employers to enforce any schedules. Some employers do, but they might as well just make a button "check in" / "check out", available any time. DoL is fine with that. A waiter can have an agreement with their boss to work whenever they like. Boss most certainly disagree, but it's boss's decision to enforce schedules. DoL doesn't care. Boss can as well agree and put a whiteboard and let waiters check in / check out by writing on it any time. Same as Uber/Lyft can make the buttons in the app (they already do). Of course, Uber/Lyft can, at their will, enforce the fixed schedules. But it will be obviously bad for their business. And no one requires them to do it, so naturally it would be beneficial to them to not enforce any fixed schedules.