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> IA will let you download full video games for the switch that are still being actively sold [1] I am not seeing that anywhere. I see a file called “My Ninten

> IA will let you download full video games for the switch that are still being actively sold [1] I am not seeing that anywhere. I see a file called “My Nintendo Switch games collection” and it is a big jpeg photo of a bookshelf. Is this what you mean?

opan 2y ago
It's harder to find them than I expected, but one search with a result is "super mario wonder nsp". I had the advantage of knowing the format(s) Switch game dumps come in, though, so the average person might not find much.
- jrflowers 2y ago
  I’m getting a “no results found” response from that search. Maybe it has already been taken down?
  - codetrotter 2y ago
    Did you accidentally search in the Wayback Machine search box instead of in the Internet Archive search box below it? The former searches website snapshots, the latter searches books, films, audio, etc that is in the part of the Internet Archive that contains itemized data.
    - jrflowers 2y ago
      Woops. I am apparently an idiot!
  - Dalewyn 2y ago
    Here ya go: https://archive.org/details/super-mario-bros.-wonder-nspe-shop https://archive.org/details/super-mario-bros.-wonder-nspe-sh... Note to dang and friends: Not condoning piracy or whatever, this is simply to prove a point that Internet Archive hosts and distributes warez with wanton abandon.
    - jrflowers 2y ago
      I’m kind of curious how this indicates “wanton abandon” Have you downloaded and checked this file to make sure that it is a playable copy of Super Mario Wonder rather than some other file labeled as such? Have you reported it, and if so how long ago?
      - Dalewyn 2y ago
        All you have to do to find warez of all sorts is take a casual browse through their software library. Most of it is actually supplied by ordinary users unrelated to Internet Archive with little to no oversight or curation. I have no idea how effective reporting is, but I would bet it's not meaningful given the prevailing prevalence of warez. And yes, I've downloaded some of those warez and they have all worked. I would advise not white knighting for Internet Archive and instead judge them for what they actually are. I honestly think the software library is actually a far bigger liability risk than the book piracy scheme. Software developers and publishers are just as vindicative as book authors and publishers if you paint a big enough target on your stupid ass and there's a lot more dollars at play.
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        jrflowers 2y ago
        Did you verify or report the link to what you claim is a working and playable copy of Super Mario Wonder for Nintendo Switch that you posted here as proof that IA “wantonly distributes warez”?
        Dalewyn 2y ago
        Here you go, 500GB of warez in just one link: https://archive.org/details/pcgames-jp https://archive.org/details/pcgames-jp But wait, there's more!: https://archive.org/details/pcgames-jp-part2 https://archive.org/details/pcgames-jp-part2 And more!: https://archive.org/details/pcgames-jp-part3 https://archive.org/details/pcgames-jp-part3 and https://archive.org/details/pcgames-jp-part4 https://archive.org/details/pcgames-jp-part4 2TB of warez in just four links. But that was way too easy, I just listed 2TB of mostly Japanese eroge. What about more mainstream stuff? Presenting the PS1 release of Castlevania - Symphony of the Night, and in fact you can only play it on Internet Archive in the browser: https://archive.org/details/psx_sotn https://archive.org/details/psx_sotn And there's a lot more PS1 games where that came from: https://archive.org/details/psxgames https://archive.org/details/psxgames You can also enjoy a collection of Game Boy Advance games, nevermind that Nintendo is really draconian about ROMs right?: https://archive.org/details/gba_rpg_pack https://archive.org/details/gba_rpg_pack But I've only linked to games so far, how about something proper adults would use? Here's Photoshop CS8 and it even comes with a keygen!: https://archive.org/details/photoshop-cs-8 https://archive.org/details/photoshop-cs-8. Actually, you know what? Just going through the latest uploads also proves my point: https://archive.org/search?query=mediatype:software&sort=-publicdate https://archive.org/search?query=mediatype:software&sort=-pu... The moral of this digression is this: Internet Archive engages in wanton distribution of warez. And once again a note to dang and friends: Not condoning piracy, these links are to prove a point.
0x1ch 2y ago
I'm heavy into the tracker and open water scenes. IA is most certainly holding some amount of content that is copyrighted and currently sold like they mentioned. It's just not easy to find.
- jonny_eh 2y ago
  > IA is most certainly holding some amount of content that is copyrighted and currently sold like they mentioned. It's just not easy to find. You could say the same of YouTube. As long as they take down copywritten works when asked, they should be fine.
  - N1ckFG 2y ago
    Afaik they do respond to DMCA requests for the individual uploads, and they do more active curation for the collections where only specific user accounts have upload access.
  - tombert 2y ago
    I don't think that YouTube is a fair comparison. YouTube very proactively tries to avoid copyright infringement, going so far as to allow copyright holders to upload copies of their media so that it be used to detect potential copyright violations. This obviously can lead to a lot of false positives, and I'm not claiming it's in any way perfect, but it more or less ensures that YouTube stays within compliance of copyright law, or at the very least makes it fairly unlikely that they will be directly sued for hosting copyrighted material. > As long as they take down copywritten works when asked, they should be fine. I think that's broadly true, but if they're aware of copyrighted material being distributed on their platform and they choose not to do anything about it, data harboring laws only go so far. If there are internal emails of employees noticing violations, and choosing not to do anything, then it's more like Napster or Megaupload, and less like YouTube. In some sense, I think even ThePirateBay might be less guilty of distribution of copyrighted material, simply because ThePirateBay doesn't actually host any of the copyrighted material themselves, simply torrents/magnet links that point to peers that have it. The thing is, I really don't want to shit on IA, and I don't even personally have much issue with people violating US copyright law, but my opinion on this really doesn't matter. The law is the law, if you break it you risk criminal charges or lawsuits. That's just kind of how society works, and I feel that IA's flagrant disregard for it is going to get them sued to oblivion, taking down stuff like The Wayback Machine with it.

opan 2y ago

It's harder to find them than I expected, but one search with a result is "super mario wonder nsp". I had the advantage of knowing the format(s) Switch game dumps come in, though, so the average person might not find much.

jrflowers 2y ago
I’m getting a “no results found” response from that search. Maybe it has already been taken down?
- codetrotter 2y ago
  Did you accidentally search in the Wayback Machine search box instead of in the Internet Archive search box below it? The former searches website snapshots, the latter searches books, films, audio, etc that is in the part of the Internet Archive that contains itemized data.
  - jrflowers 2y ago
    Woops. I am apparently an idiot!
- Dalewyn 2y ago
  Here ya go: https://archive.org/details/super-mario-bros.-wonder-nspe-shop https://archive.org/details/super-mario-bros.-wonder-nspe-sh... Note to dang and friends: Not condoning piracy or whatever, this is simply to prove a point that Internet Archive hosts and distributes warez with wanton abandon.
  - jrflowers 2y ago
    I’m kind of curious how this indicates “wanton abandon” Have you downloaded and checked this file to make sure that it is a playable copy of Super Mario Wonder rather than some other file labeled as such? Have you reported it, and if so how long ago?
    - Dalewyn 2y ago
      All you have to do to find warez of all sorts is take a casual browse through their software library. Most of it is actually supplied by ordinary users unrelated to Internet Archive with little to no oversight or curation. I have no idea how effective reporting is, but I would bet it's not meaningful given the prevailing prevalence of warez. And yes, I've downloaded some of those warez and they have all worked. I would advise not white knighting for Internet Archive and instead judge them for what they actually are. I honestly think the software library is actually a far bigger liability risk than the book piracy scheme. Software developers and publishers are just as vindicative as book authors and publishers if you paint a big enough target on your stupid ass and there's a lot more dollars at play.
      - deleted 2y ago
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      - jrflowers 2y ago
        Did you verify or report the link to what you claim is a working and playable copy of Super Mario Wonder for Nintendo Switch that you posted here as proof that IA “wantonly distributes warez”?
        Dalewyn 2y ago
        Here you go, 500GB of warez in just one link: https://archive.org/details/pcgames-jp https://archive.org/details/pcgames-jp But wait, there's more!: https://archive.org/details/pcgames-jp-part2 https://archive.org/details/pcgames-jp-part2 And more!: https://archive.org/details/pcgames-jp-part3 https://archive.org/details/pcgames-jp-part3 and https://archive.org/details/pcgames-jp-part4 https://archive.org/details/pcgames-jp-part4 2TB of warez in just four links. But that was way too easy, I just listed 2TB of mostly Japanese eroge. What about more mainstream stuff? Presenting the PS1 release of Castlevania - Symphony of the Night, and in fact you can only play it on Internet Archive in the browser: https://archive.org/details/psx_sotn https://archive.org/details/psx_sotn And there's a lot more PS1 games where that came from: https://archive.org/details/psxgames https://archive.org/details/psxgames You can also enjoy a collection of Game Boy Advance games, nevermind that Nintendo is really draconian about ROMs right?: https://archive.org/details/gba_rpg_pack https://archive.org/details/gba_rpg_pack But I've only linked to games so far, how about something proper adults would use? Here's Photoshop CS8 and it even comes with a keygen!: https://archive.org/details/photoshop-cs-8 https://archive.org/details/photoshop-cs-8. Actually, you know what? Just going through the latest uploads also proves my point: https://archive.org/search?query=mediatype:software&sort=-publicdate https://archive.org/search?query=mediatype:software&sort=-pu... The moral of this digression is this: Internet Archive engages in wanton distribution of warez. And once again a note to dang and friends: Not condoning piracy, these links are to prove a point.

0x1ch 2y ago

I'm heavy into the tracker and open water scenes. IA is most certainly holding some amount of content that is copyrighted and currently sold like they mentioned. It's just not easy to find.

jonny_eh 2y ago
> IA is most certainly holding some amount of content that is copyrighted and currently sold like they mentioned. It's just not easy to find. You could say the same of YouTube. As long as they take down copywritten works when asked, they should be fine.
- N1ckFG 2y ago
  Afaik they do respond to DMCA requests for the individual uploads, and they do more active curation for the collections where only specific user accounts have upload access.
- tombert 2y ago
  I don't think that YouTube is a fair comparison. YouTube very proactively tries to avoid copyright infringement, going so far as to allow copyright holders to upload copies of their media so that it be used to detect potential copyright violations. This obviously can lead to a lot of false positives, and I'm not claiming it's in any way perfect, but it more or less ensures that YouTube stays within compliance of copyright law, or at the very least makes it fairly unlikely that they will be directly sued for hosting copyrighted material. > As long as they take down copywritten works when asked, they should be fine. I think that's broadly true, but if they're aware of copyrighted material being distributed on their platform and they choose not to do anything about it, data harboring laws only go so far. If there are internal emails of employees noticing violations, and choosing not to do anything, then it's more like Napster or Megaupload, and less like YouTube. In some sense, I think even ThePirateBay might be less guilty of distribution of copyrighted material, simply because ThePirateBay doesn't actually host any of the copyrighted material themselves, simply torrents/magnet links that point to peers that have it. The thing is, I really don't want to shit on IA, and I don't even personally have much issue with people violating US copyright law, but my opinion on this really doesn't matter. The law is the law, if you break it you risk criminal charges or lawsuits. That's just kind of how society works, and I feel that IA's flagrant disregard for it is going to get them sued to oblivion, taking down stuff like The Wayback Machine with it.