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The purpose of capitalism is to establish, reinforce, and perpetuate a class hierarchy where the people on the bottom must constantly pay to exist while the peo

The purpose of capitalism is to establish, reinforce, and perpetuate a class hierarchy where the people on the bottom must constantly pay to exist while the people on top constantly get paid to exist. This shit isn't a side effect, it's the entire point of the exercise.

madmask 2y ago
Capitalism gives you opportunities to climb the ladder
- angelaguilera 2y ago
  Capitalism also continuously adds steps to that ladder
- hakfoo 2y ago
  Progress should be saying "we don't have to spend so much of our time and effort on the ladder". Our forefathers would be baffled to see that we've coerced crops into tenfold their natural yield, conquered lightning, the wind, and the sun itself, and yet, millions of people are still working 40+ hours a week to not starve or go homeless.
graymatters 2y ago
Spoken like a true Marxist. The purpose of Marxism is to literally kill hundreds of millions of people who oppose the Marxist way. Like they did during the 20th century in the countries where Marxism prevailed (even briefly).
- astrange 2y ago
  It is not spoken like a true Marxist; they didn't even believe this. Here's Engels saying being a renter is not exploitation: https://x.com/TheOmniZaddy/status/1559949666543878151 https://x.com/TheOmniZaddy/status/1559949666543878151 Georgism is better though, and the homeownership market isn't about "capitalism".
  - schmidtleonard 2y ago
    Ah, Georgists. Smart enough to see the problem, but dumb enough to think the people benefiting will help them solve it.
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closeparen 2y ago
Unfortunately in their rejection of capitalism, the people have mostly decided to do feudalism, i.e. legitimacy comes from land ownership and land tenure. It is even hereditary: heirs get to pay much lower property tax than transplants. I don't think we're going to see eye to eye on capitalism, but even Marx would agree with me that it's better than feudalism.
- schmidtleonard 2y ago
  "That's not true capitalism!!!" Sure dude. Now where have I heard that before?

madmask 2y ago

Capitalism gives you opportunities to climb the ladder

angelaguilera 2y ago
Capitalism also continuously adds steps to that ladder
hakfoo 2y ago
Progress should be saying "we don't have to spend so much of our time and effort on the ladder". Our forefathers would be baffled to see that we've coerced crops into tenfold their natural yield, conquered lightning, the wind, and the sun itself, and yet, millions of people are still working 40+ hours a week to not starve or go homeless.

graymatters 2y ago

Spoken like a true Marxist. The purpose of Marxism is to literally kill hundreds of millions of people who oppose the Marxist way. Like they did during the 20th century in the countries where Marxism prevailed (even briefly).

astrange 2y ago
It is not spoken like a true Marxist; they didn't even believe this. Here's Engels saying being a renter is not exploitation: https://x.com/TheOmniZaddy/status/1559949666543878151 https://x.com/TheOmniZaddy/status/1559949666543878151 Georgism is better though, and the homeownership market isn't about "capitalism".
- schmidtleonard 2y ago
  Ah, Georgists. Smart enough to see the problem, but dumb enough to think the people benefiting will help them solve it.

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closeparen 2y ago

Unfortunately in their rejection of capitalism, the people have mostly decided to do feudalism, i.e. legitimacy comes from land ownership and land tenure. It is even hereditary: heirs get to pay much lower property tax than transplants. I don't think we're going to see eye to eye on capitalism, but even Marx would agree with me that it's better than feudalism.

schmidtleonard 2y ago
"That's not true capitalism!!!" Sure dude. Now where have I heard that before?