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Isn't this against the Geneva convention? Flame throwers and Napalm are both outlawed, that would make this a Warcrime.

max-ibel 2y ago
AFAIK, Napalm is illegal against a civilian population. IDK that it is illegal to use against military installations. Not that I think it is necessarily a smart move on the part of Ukraine, since Russia can play this game too.
- SkyPuncher 2y ago
  Allowable against military targets.
stop50 2y ago
The geneva conventions apply only for wounded and sick on land(geneva convention I), wounded and sick on sea(geneva convention II), captured soldiers(geneva convention III) and at last civilians. The Hague Conventions on the other hand limit what weapons can be used. in the 1899 article IV may be violated.
kozak 2y ago
Russia uses TOS-1 thermobaric heavy flamethrowers A LOT in this war, so either this is lawful or no one cares.
- protomolecule 2y ago
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dilyevsky 2y ago
Incendiaries are not banned for military targets. Even white phosphorus is only “restricted” such that you need to take precautions regarding collateral damage. And GC specifically doesn’t regulate arms it mainly deals with prisoners and such.
xenospn 2y ago
Russia is blowing up schools in Lviv, which is closer to Poland than Russia. I think that ship has sailed
- protomolecule 2y ago
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  - aguaviva 2y ago
    In the most recent strike on Lviv's historic center to which you are referring, 7 people were killed, including nearly an entire family of 5 (and wounding 35 others): Of the five members of her family, only Yaroslav, Daryna’s father, is now alive, a lone survivor of a Russian strike on their home in the western Ukrainian city of Lviv on Wednesday. According to eyewitnesses, Daryna, 18, her sisters Yaryna, 21, and Emilia, 7, and their 43-year-old mother Yevhenia were killed while sheltering in the staircase of their residential building, the Ukrainian emergency services said. https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/europe/ukraine-safe-haven-city-family-killed-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/europe/ukraine-safe-haven-cit... The attacks also damaged seven educational facilities, including a primary school and three secondary schools, including Lyceums 5 and 17: https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/09/05/deadly-russian-attacks-lvivs-historic-district https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/09/05/deadly-russian-attacks-l... Russia's defence ministry said that "all designated targets had been hit": https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqj35jv3e7o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqj35jv3e7o Curiously, you are choosing not only to omit this information, but to depict the result of the strike as something entirely different from what it was.
    - protomolecule 2y ago
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      - aguaviva 2y ago
        Clearly the target was something else in the vicinity. "All designated targets had been hit", said the Russian Defense Ministry. Why would Russians do something that rotten from the moral point of view and so wasteful from the purely military pov? Ask your neighbors.

AFAIK, Napalm is illegal against a civilian population. IDK that it is illegal to use against military installations. Not that I think it is necessarily a smart move on the part of Ukraine, since Russia can play this game too.

SkyPuncher 2y ago
Allowable against military targets.

stop50 2y ago

The geneva conventions apply only for wounded and sick on land(geneva convention I), wounded and sick on sea(geneva convention II), captured soldiers(geneva convention III) and at last civilians. The Hague Conventions on the other hand limit what weapons can be used. in the 1899 article IV may be violated.

kozak 2y ago

Russia uses TOS-1 thermobaric heavy flamethrowers A LOT in this war, so either this is lawful or no one cares.

protomolecule 2y ago
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dilyevsky 2y ago

Incendiaries are not banned for military targets. Even white phosphorus is only “restricted” such that you need to take precautions regarding collateral damage. And GC specifically doesn’t regulate arms it mainly deals with prisoners and such.

xenospn 2y ago

Russia is blowing up schools in Lviv, which is closer to Poland than Russia. I think that ship has sailed

protomolecule 2y ago
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- aguaviva 2y ago
  In the most recent strike on Lviv's historic center to which you are referring, 7 people were killed, including nearly an entire family of 5 (and wounding 35 others): Of the five members of her family, only Yaroslav, Daryna’s father, is now alive, a lone survivor of a Russian strike on their home in the western Ukrainian city of Lviv on Wednesday. According to eyewitnesses, Daryna, 18, her sisters Yaryna, 21, and Emilia, 7, and their 43-year-old mother Yevhenia were killed while sheltering in the staircase of their residential building, the Ukrainian emergency services said. https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/europe/ukraine-safe-haven-city-family-killed-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/europe/ukraine-safe-haven-cit... The attacks also damaged seven educational facilities, including a primary school and three secondary schools, including Lyceums 5 and 17: https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/09/05/deadly-russian-attacks-lvivs-historic-district https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/09/05/deadly-russian-attacks-l... Russia's defence ministry said that "all designated targets had been hit": https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqj35jv3e7o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqj35jv3e7o Curiously, you are choosing not only to omit this information, but to depict the result of the strike as something entirely different from what it was.
  - protomolecule 2y ago
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    - aguaviva 2y ago
      Clearly the target was something else in the vicinity. "All designated targets had been hit", said the Russian Defense Ministry. Why would Russians do something that rotten from the moral point of view and so wasteful from the purely military pov? Ask your neighbors.