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In the meantime we got 9/11, and all the security procedures that goes with it. It is nowadays much slower to fly than before, and that time is mostly incompres

In the meantime we got 9/11, and all the security procedures that goes with it. It is nowadays much slower to fly than before, and that time is mostly incompressible, making the benefits of supersonic flight less incentive.

happyopossum 2y ago
I fly a fair amount, and I haven't been in a situation where I had to arrive at the airport 90 minutes before a flight in years - typically 1 hour is plenty of time, and if I weren't optimizing for low-stress, could get away with 45 minutes most days for domestic flights. 90 minutes out of 17.5 hours of travel ( 16 hour flight from SFO to Singapore) represents a small amount of 'incompressible' time - cutting that 16 hour flight down to 8 or 10 would make a HUGE difference, especially given timezone/IDL issues.
- rkagerer 2y ago
  Air Canada just announced today it's inreasing check-in cutoff time to 1hr - roughly meaning if you don't get to the counter at least 1hr early you're out of luck. Not sure if it impacts those who travel without luggage and check-in online. I contrast this to when I used to be able to (long ago) roll up to the airport a mere 20mins before takeoff time.
  - ghaff 2y ago
    >I used to be able to (long ago) roll up to the airport a mere 20mins before takeoff time. I worked for a guy once when I was working in downtown Boston for a bit and the times I traveled with him he would absolutely drive me crazy by not wanting to grab a cab to the airport until well under an hour before flight time. Today, I usually breeze through security in a few minutes with TSA Pre for early morning flights. I still arrive about 2 hours in advance because I find it more relaxing and my limo company pretty much wants that much slack anyway. (I rarely check luggage.)
  - 0x457 2y ago
    > Not sure if it impacts those who travel without luggage and check-in online. If you checked in online and have no luggage, you just need to make in time before your boarding gate closes.
- mandevil 2y ago
  Boom Overture, which does not yet exist, is supposed to have a range of 4,250 nm (presuming they can get their engines to actually exist, which is a giant question-mark). That means they can bring JFK-FRA into service, but SFO-SIN is going to be tight even on just one refueling stop (7340 nm but the jet stream is working against you the entire way- sometimes it will require a second refueling stop!).
- sokoloff 2y ago
  There are a few airports (like MCO [Orlando’s commercial airport]) where I do try to give myself 90 minutes, but for most of my trips, I leave my house about 60 minutes before boarding and get to the airport about 20-30 before boarding.

happyopossum 2y ago

I fly a fair amount, and I haven't been in a situation where I had to arrive at the airport 90 minutes before a flight in years - typically 1 hour is plenty of time, and if I weren't optimizing for low-stress, could get away with 45 minutes most days for domestic flights. 90 minutes out of 17.5 hours of travel ( 16 hour flight from SFO to Singapore) represents a small amount of 'incompressible' time - cutting that 16 hour flight down to 8 or 10 would make a HUGE difference, especially given timezone/IDL issues.

rkagerer 2y ago
Air Canada just announced today it's inreasing check-in cutoff time to 1hr - roughly meaning if you don't get to the counter at least 1hr early you're out of luck. Not sure if it impacts those who travel without luggage and check-in online. I contrast this to when I used to be able to (long ago) roll up to the airport a mere 20mins before takeoff time.
- ghaff 2y ago
  >I used to be able to (long ago) roll up to the airport a mere 20mins before takeoff time. I worked for a guy once when I was working in downtown Boston for a bit and the times I traveled with him he would absolutely drive me crazy by not wanting to grab a cab to the airport until well under an hour before flight time. Today, I usually breeze through security in a few minutes with TSA Pre for early morning flights. I still arrive about 2 hours in advance because I find it more relaxing and my limo company pretty much wants that much slack anyway. (I rarely check luggage.)
- 0x457 2y ago
  > Not sure if it impacts those who travel without luggage and check-in online. If you checked in online and have no luggage, you just need to make in time before your boarding gate closes.
mandevil 2y ago
Boom Overture, which does not yet exist, is supposed to have a range of 4,250 nm (presuming they can get their engines to actually exist, which is a giant question-mark). That means they can bring JFK-FRA into service, but SFO-SIN is going to be tight even on just one refueling stop (7340 nm but the jet stream is working against you the entire way- sometimes it will require a second refueling stop!).
sokoloff 2y ago
There are a few airports (like MCO [Orlando’s commercial airport]) where I do try to give myself 90 minutes, but for most of my trips, I leave my house about 60 minutes before boarding and get to the airport about 20-30 before boarding.