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Is that actually true? If you mean "over the last 20 years", then no, they weren't even a governing party between 2005 and 2021. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Is that actually true? If you mean "over the last 20 years", then no, they weren't even a governing party between 2005 and 2021. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Federal_Republic_of_Germany_governments https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Federal_Republic_of_Ge... You're perhaps talking about the downstream effects of sunsetting nuclear energy but even since then, the ratio of renewable energy has only increased. So what do you mean exactly? https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/germanys-energy-consumption-and-power-mix-charts https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/germanys-energy-c...

eru 2y ago
Yes, I was (partially) talking about sunsetting nuclear energy, which they had a major part in (though some of that was indirectly). They are also against fracking, which indirectly leads to more coal burning. Which is worse. > [...] the ratio of renewable energy has only increased. So what do you mean exactly? I would look at the CO2 emitted per Joule or something like that. Ie something that puts nuclear and coal into different baskets.
CRConrad 2y ago
> > See also the German 'Green' party whose policies have led to lots and lots more CO2 emissions over the years. reply > Is that actually true? > If you mean "over the last 20 years", then no, they weren't even a governing party between 2005 and 2021. You don't have to be in cabinet to influence other parties.
- barbazoo 2y ago
  They barely made it into parliament at all most elections, hovering around 5% in 2002 and 2006 and well below 10% after that until 2021. I think you might be giving them too much credit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_90/The_Greens#Election_results https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_90/The_Greens#Electio...
  - CRConrad 2y ago
    > They barely made it into parliament at all most elections You don't even have to be in parliament to influence other parties.

eru 2y ago

Yes, I was (partially) talking about sunsetting nuclear energy, which they had a major part in (though some of that was indirectly). They are also against fracking, which indirectly leads to more coal burning. Which is worse. > [...] the ratio of renewable energy has only increased. So what do you mean exactly? I would look at the CO2 emitted per Joule or something like that. Ie something that puts nuclear and coal into different baskets.

CRConrad 2y ago

> > See also the German 'Green' party whose policies have led to lots and lots more CO2 emissions over the years. reply > Is that actually true? > If you mean "over the last 20 years", then no, they weren't even a governing party between 2005 and 2021. You don't have to be in cabinet to influence other parties.

barbazoo 2y ago
They barely made it into parliament at all most elections, hovering around 5% in 2002 and 2006 and well below 10% after that until 2021. I think you might be giving them too much credit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_90/The_Greens#Election_results https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_90/The_Greens#Electio...
- CRConrad 2y ago
  > They barely made it into parliament at all most elections You don't even have to be in parliament to influence other parties.