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- There are cheaper alternatives to both the razors the author is showing. - You don't need to shave every day, especially with 2024 social norms, you choose t

- There are cheaper alternatives to both the razors the author is showing. - You don't need to shave every day, especially with 2024 social norms, you choose to. - Nobody forces you to use a disposable razor. You can use a straight razor. You can use an electric shaver. I use both. But it turns out disposable razors saves your from cuts and learning technics and people want that. - So you really pay £40/year (which is not huge) for the convenience of a disposable razor, and not even the cheap ones. And the fact you want to shave every day. That reads like an Ad, except I don't know what OP is selling.

fsckboy 2y ago
>You don't need to shave every day, especially with 2024 social norms, you choose to. different people have vastly different shaving needs, you can't put everybody in the same box like that. learn to be curious about other people's experiences, and their reasons, you can choose to too!
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- blueflow 2y ago
  Shaving is a hassle. If people insist that its part of their life, its their choice and thus largely their own responsibility.
  - organsnyder 2y ago
    Going against social norms often comes at a cost. Many people have enough other things going against them that they need to get whatever small advantages they can.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
    Showering is also a hassle. How far do you want to take this logic?
    - blueflow 2y ago
      That is still your responsibility. I did not go farther than that.
  - harimau777 2y ago
    I'm not sure that anyone is suggesting that it isn't their own responsibility. No one is saying that someone else should have to shave them or something.
- true_religion 2y ago
  I am curious what the needs would be with regards to shaving? It really does seem more like a personal choice, social norm dependent topic, like fashion or makeup. Is there someone who need to shave fully for non cosmetic reasons?
  - baseballdork 2y ago
    Military?
  - astura 2y ago
    >Is there someone who need to shave fully for non cosmetic reasons? Firefighters.
    - woleium 2y ago
      Army, air force, but not navy.
  - harimau777 2y ago
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  - fsckboy 2y ago
    >I am curious what the needs would be with regards to shaving? thickness of individual hairs. density of follicles per unit area. hair growth rate. color of hair. do you get a 5-o'clock shadow? how about a noon shadow? how about just a 3 day dusting if you look close enough? do the people hiring you already consider you swarthy? does your neck break out in razor burn if you shave too close, putting you a day behind from the get go? >really does seem more like a personal choice, social norm dependent topic social norms are not personal choices, and what you call curious is what I call obtuse, but that's personal preference (based on norms I've observed). Two words for you to carry away from this, son: pseudofolliculitis barbae https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudofolliculitis_barbae https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudofolliculitis_barbae
    - dwaltrip 2y ago
- partdavid 2y ago
  Many takes in this thread are people not realizing this and having a really narrow view of what people are shaving, and why, and what might or might not work for them--inappropriately generalizing their own constraints and desires to others.
thehoff 2y ago
I have a Dorco that I've used for years along with a double edge. The Dorco cartridges are pretty cheap and the double edge was used. Also, yes, you probably do not have to shave everyday these days. I can get by with 2-3 a week if that and still not look messy. Even if I did I feel the Dorco with the double edge is not that expensive.
maeil 2y ago
> - You don't need to shave every day, especially with 2024 social norms, you choose to. Regarding 2024 social norms: the world is a big place and not everyone lives in the US or Western Europe. Also, people have extremely different beard growth rates. I'm in my 30s and believe I personally still haven't met a man whose facial hair grows quicker than mine does. I can shave in the morning and by 6PM it no longer looks clean whatsoever. Yet there's many men who can't grow one even if they'd like to. > But it turns out disposable razors saves your from cuts and learning technics and people want that. They're also useful for those with disabilities or other issues that make it difficult to use a straight razor. I'd love to use one but have tremors if I hold my hands/arms in certain positions, rendering it unfeasable. We're definitely a small minority though, for most I'd recommend the straight razor.
- true_religion 2y ago
  As someone not living in the western world, beards are even more prevalent here than in the US.
  - maeil 2y ago
    As someone else not living in the western world, beards may as well be extinct here outside of the creative industries (arts, fashion, music).
tojaprice 2y ago
> That reads like an Ad, except I don't know what OP is selling. I'm not sure they are selling anything, just hunting for clicks on the affiliate link at the bottom of the article maybe?
hosh 2y ago
It turns out, properly engineered and precision machined safety razors saves you nicks and cuts and is a better shave than disposable or electric shavers. These razors angle the cutting edge at a certain angle, and has very little jiggle. You can still nick yourself applying too much pressure or slicing sideways. You pay for it, of course, in the initial investment. The author went on to list other examples, such as Kureig pods. Maybe he is trying to unsell some things.
- voisin 2y ago
  > It turns out, properly engineered and precision machined safety razors saves you nicks and cuts and is a better shave than disposable or electric shavers. Best in class (and should be multiples more expensive IMO): hensonshaving.com
  - hosh 2y ago
    That was what I got but I didn’t want to turn it into an ad or cult, even though their product makes it easy to do so. The way I think of it is that, unless I lose mine’s, it is easily something that can be passed down as an heirloom or legacy for my kids (though I would probably outfit them with their own when they need it). There are not many things made like that anymore.
  - tengwar2 2y ago
    Got one, but I find Merkur handles (a more established make) to be better. That's not to say that Merkur will be better than Henson for everyone, but it's not reasonable to say that Henson is best in class.
  - Fire-Dragon-DoL 2y ago
    Can you explain? I assume the blades become blunt over time, how does it work? Also, the ones I use have some sort of green line on it which releases something that makes the shaving more pleasant. When that runs out, the shaving is less pleasant. And since we are there, I'm in the market for an aftershave that smells great to my wife (mild, not strong) and that is not painful to put on/ok for sensitive skin. Really hard to shop for these things online and even in shop, one has to smell them.
astura 2y ago
>You don't need to shave every day, especially with 2024 social norms, you choose to. Only if you're a software engineer at a company with no dress code. Many professions you simply MUST shave every day (ex. military, firefighter). Even the first company I worked as a software engineer for in 2005 required men to be clean shaven for work. In 2024 the New York Yankees STILL require their players to be clean shaven on the field.[1] Beyond that, facial hair growth rate is highly variable. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Yankees_appearance_policy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Yankees_appearance_po...
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gnfargbl 2y ago
Indeed. You could buy https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/251618381 https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/251618381, for instance, which is a perfectly good razor and costs 70p per unit. Assuming one lasts you a week, that's £36 per year. Many people could make one last at least a fortnight, which brings the cost down to £18 per year. Is it worth £8 per year to save the hassle of dealing with a classic double-edged razor? Yes, of course it is. This is a very strange thing to get upset about.
4oo4 2y ago
You can make "disposable" razors last a very long time by rubbing them on a piece of old denim in between shaves. Most of the wear on razors comes from oxidation from air and water vs. cutting hair. I believe doing this helps remove the oxidated spots. This means I can make a pack of them last 12-18 months, and I only need a new razor when the plastic/silicone housing and pads break. Reading the other comments I should still probably invest in a more permanent razor though.
- woleium 2y ago
  or just keep them in mineral oil between uses

fsckboy 2y ago

>You don't need to shave every day, especially with 2024 social norms, you choose to. different people have vastly different shaving needs, you can't put everybody in the same box like that. learn to be curious about other people's experiences, and their reasons, you can choose to too!

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blueflow 2y ago
Shaving is a hassle. If people insist that its part of their life, its their choice and thus largely their own responsibility.
- organsnyder 2y ago
  Going against social norms often comes at a cost. Many people have enough other things going against them that they need to get whatever small advantages they can.
- yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
  Showering is also a hassle. How far do you want to take this logic?
  - blueflow 2y ago
    That is still your responsibility. I did not go farther than that.
- harimau777 2y ago
  I'm not sure that anyone is suggesting that it isn't their own responsibility. No one is saying that someone else should have to shave them or something.
true_religion 2y ago
I am curious what the needs would be with regards to shaving? It really does seem more like a personal choice, social norm dependent topic, like fashion or makeup. Is there someone who need to shave fully for non cosmetic reasons?
- baseballdork 2y ago
  Military?
- astura 2y ago
  >Is there someone who need to shave fully for non cosmetic reasons? Firefighters.
  - woleium 2y ago
    Army, air force, but not navy.
- harimau777 2y ago
  [flagged]
- fsckboy 2y ago
  >I am curious what the needs would be with regards to shaving? thickness of individual hairs. density of follicles per unit area. hair growth rate. color of hair. do you get a 5-o'clock shadow? how about a noon shadow? how about just a 3 day dusting if you look close enough? do the people hiring you already consider you swarthy? does your neck break out in razor burn if you shave too close, putting you a day behind from the get go? >really does seem more like a personal choice, social norm dependent topic social norms are not personal choices, and what you call curious is what I call obtuse, but that's personal preference (based on norms I've observed). Two words for you to carry away from this, son: pseudofolliculitis barbae https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudofolliculitis_barbae https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudofolliculitis_barbae
  - dwaltrip 2y ago
partdavid 2y ago
Many takes in this thread are people not realizing this and having a really narrow view of what people are shaving, and why, and what might or might not work for them--inappropriately generalizing their own constraints and desires to others.

thehoff 2y ago

I have a Dorco that I've used for years along with a double edge. The Dorco cartridges are pretty cheap and the double edge was used. Also, yes, you probably do not have to shave everyday these days. I can get by with 2-3 a week if that and still not look messy. Even if I did I feel the Dorco with the double edge is not that expensive.

maeil 2y ago

> - You don't need to shave every day, especially with 2024 social norms, you choose to. Regarding 2024 social norms: the world is a big place and not everyone lives in the US or Western Europe. Also, people have extremely different beard growth rates. I'm in my 30s and believe I personally still haven't met a man whose facial hair grows quicker than mine does. I can shave in the morning and by 6PM it no longer looks clean whatsoever. Yet there's many men who can't grow one even if they'd like to. > But it turns out disposable razors saves your from cuts and learning technics and people want that. They're also useful for those with disabilities or other issues that make it difficult to use a straight razor. I'd love to use one but have tremors if I hold my hands/arms in certain positions, rendering it unfeasable. We're definitely a small minority though, for most I'd recommend the straight razor.

true_religion 2y ago
As someone not living in the western world, beards are even more prevalent here than in the US.
- maeil 2y ago
  As someone else not living in the western world, beards may as well be extinct here outside of the creative industries (arts, fashion, music).

tojaprice 2y ago

> That reads like an Ad, except I don't know what OP is selling. I'm not sure they are selling anything, just hunting for clicks on the affiliate link at the bottom of the article maybe?

hosh 2y ago

It turns out, properly engineered and precision machined safety razors saves you nicks and cuts and is a better shave than disposable or electric shavers. These razors angle the cutting edge at a certain angle, and has very little jiggle. You can still nick yourself applying too much pressure or slicing sideways. You pay for it, of course, in the initial investment. The author went on to list other examples, such as Kureig pods. Maybe he is trying to unsell some things.

voisin 2y ago
> It turns out, properly engineered and precision machined safety razors saves you nicks and cuts and is a better shave than disposable or electric shavers. Best in class (and should be multiples more expensive IMO): hensonshaving.com
- hosh 2y ago
  That was what I got but I didn’t want to turn it into an ad or cult, even though their product makes it easy to do so. The way I think of it is that, unless I lose mine’s, it is easily something that can be passed down as an heirloom or legacy for my kids (though I would probably outfit them with their own when they need it). There are not many things made like that anymore.
- tengwar2 2y ago
  Got one, but I find Merkur handles (a more established make) to be better. That's not to say that Merkur will be better than Henson for everyone, but it's not reasonable to say that Henson is best in class.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 2y ago
  Can you explain? I assume the blades become blunt over time, how does it work? Also, the ones I use have some sort of green line on it which releases something that makes the shaving more pleasant. When that runs out, the shaving is less pleasant. And since we are there, I'm in the market for an aftershave that smells great to my wife (mild, not strong) and that is not painful to put on/ok for sensitive skin. Really hard to shop for these things online and even in shop, one has to smell them.

astura 2y ago

>You don't need to shave every day, especially with 2024 social norms, you choose to. Only if you're a software engineer at a company with no dress code. Many professions you simply MUST shave every day (ex. military, firefighter). Even the first company I worked as a software engineer for in 2005 required men to be clean shaven for work. In 2024 the New York Yankees STILL require their players to be clean shaven on the field.[1] Beyond that, facial hair growth rate is highly variable. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Yankees_appearance_policy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Yankees_appearance_po...

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gnfargbl 2y ago

Indeed. You could buy https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/251618381 https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/251618381, for instance, which is a perfectly good razor and costs 70p per unit. Assuming one lasts you a week, that's £36 per year. Many people could make one last at least a fortnight, which brings the cost down to £18 per year. Is it worth £8 per year to save the hassle of dealing with a classic double-edged razor? Yes, of course it is. This is a very strange thing to get upset about.

4oo4 2y ago

You can make "disposable" razors last a very long time by rubbing them on a piece of old denim in between shaves. Most of the wear on razors comes from oxidation from air and water vs. cutting hair. I believe doing this helps remove the oxidated spots. This means I can make a pack of them last 12-18 months, and I only need a new razor when the plastic/silicone housing and pads break. Reading the other comments I should still probably invest in a more permanent razor though.

woleium 2y ago
or just keep them in mineral oil between uses