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Cloud enabled a lot for small companies. Instead of having to hire a full sysadmin and buying infrastructure, you just click a server, enable snapshoting and y

Cloud enabled a lot for small companies. Instead of having to hire a full sysadmin and buying infrastructure, you just click a server, enable snapshoting and you are already 10x better of of what you had before. The biggest issue with these 'cloud' discussions and the pricing is simply solved: EITHER you have a good team who understands it and can and should determine if you are better of onprem or on cloud, or you do not have this team and you are not wasting money you are just paying for a lot better system which you would otherwise never had. I have seen plenty of tremendes shitty setups in small companies from people who should know better. Databases reachable on the internet, slow ticket systems for getting hardware, costly upgrade prices (and partially internal cost centers were an server upgrade costs a few k). You use too many slow lambdas? your Database costs tons of money? You can't control your micro services anymore? And you think your company would have been able to setup a better thing on prem without the help of cloud? Never

jjav 2y ago
> Instead of having to hire a full sysadmin You need the same sysadmins (called something else to be trendy, but basically same role) either way.
- Haammamajoe 2y ago
  We did not had them. It was maintained by us the development team. Why? Because it was a lot less effort to just keep a few servers running (no hardware, etc.) and its not like a dev can't do anything system related.
  - jjav 2y ago
    > and its not like a dev can't do anything system related I'm glad to read this! Unfortunately the industry has become so fragmented that a very significant percentage of younger developers no longer have any knowledge nor any interest in understanding how systems work. There is this idea that a developer only writes code and has no need to understand threads or processes or userspace vs. kernel or networking or anything at all other than the language syntax. It is very sad.

jjav 2y ago

> Instead of having to hire a full sysadmin You need the same sysadmins (called something else to be trendy, but basically same role) either way.

Haammamajoe 2y ago
We did not had them. It was maintained by us the development team. Why? Because it was a lot less effort to just keep a few servers running (no hardware, etc.) and its not like a dev can't do anything system related.
- jjav 2y ago
  > and its not like a dev can't do anything system related I'm glad to read this! Unfortunately the industry has become so fragmented that a very significant percentage of younger developers no longer have any knowledge nor any interest in understanding how systems work. There is this idea that a developer only writes code and has no need to understand threads or processes or userspace vs. kernel or networking or anything at all other than the language syntax. It is very sad.