4 ms·

You can ssh into the remarkable and copy files via scp.

by _ph_ 2y ago

lidavidm 2y ago
Yeah. Still way more effort than Kobo: plug it in, drag and drop.
- chickenimprint 2y ago
  I've switched to exclusively using SSH on my Kobo, because I find it less effortful. The connection procedure consists of enabling wifi on the Kobo and clicking on the sftp bookmark in my file browser.
  - whycome 2y ago
    Wait is this an official method?
    - SSLy 2y ago
      No, it's KFmon stuff.
- MayeulC 2y ago
  What's wrong with the USB web interface of the remarkable, though? It is quite spartan, but I haven't updated mine in ages, so I imagine they have improved it. The workflow is plug -> web browser -> remarkable IP -> drag and drop.
  - lidavidm 2y ago
    That's still quite a bit more than just plug -> drag and drop, also especially because sometimes I had to manually bring up the interface, and remember some IP that I might only use every week or two at most. (I guess I could set up a bookmark, sure.) Also, it chokes on large-ish files (it would just never upload, no indication in the UI), so I had to split up books. Anyways, I think I could have dealt with it if it handled large books fine.
  - wpm 2y ago
    What does the customer gain from having a web interface you have to navigate to by IP rather than a simple external storage device that shows up like a flash drive?
    - m4lvin 2y ago
      I think one reason for the web interface is that the device stays usable. If it would export a block device then it would need to unmount the file system on itself or at least block changes. If I remember correctly in the old days before MTP, all Android did this, making storage on the device itself unavailable while making it available via USB.
      - MayeulC 2y ago
        Yeah, that would be an issue with presenting the device as a block storage device. The web interface also has a couple of other advantages: the tablet simultaneously listens for ssh connections, and can be used over Wi-Fi, IIRC? Though it could also expose a "USB HUB" with both the network interface and block storage. I just wish we had a more ubiquitous "network file storage" protocol. The tablet itself could offer NFS, but mounting it under different operating systems would be a pain, requiring manual user intervention.
tecleandor 2y ago
But, afaik, they keep an index and some extra files in their own format to track them [0], so you can't "just" upload the files. You need a tool to do that additional work. I use RCU [1] for that. 0: https://remarkable.jms1.info/info/filesystem.html 1: https://www.davisr.me/projects/rcu/

You can ssh into the remarkable and copy files via scp.

by _ph_ 2y ago

You can ssh into the remarkable and copy files via scp.

lidavidm 2y ago

Yeah. Still way more effort than Kobo: plug it in, drag and drop.

chickenimprint 2y ago
I've switched to exclusively using SSH on my Kobo, because I find it less effortful. The connection procedure consists of enabling wifi on the Kobo and clicking on the sftp bookmark in my file browser.
- whycome 2y ago
  Wait is this an official method?
  - SSLy 2y ago
    No, it's KFmon stuff.
MayeulC 2y ago
What's wrong with the USB web interface of the remarkable, though? It is quite spartan, but I haven't updated mine in ages, so I imagine they have improved it. The workflow is plug -> web browser -> remarkable IP -> drag and drop.
- lidavidm 2y ago
  That's still quite a bit more than just plug -> drag and drop, also especially because sometimes I had to manually bring up the interface, and remember some IP that I might only use every week or two at most. (I guess I could set up a bookmark, sure.) Also, it chokes on large-ish files (it would just never upload, no indication in the UI), so I had to split up books. Anyways, I think I could have dealt with it if it handled large books fine.
- wpm 2y ago
  What does the customer gain from having a web interface you have to navigate to by IP rather than a simple external storage device that shows up like a flash drive?
  - m4lvin 2y ago
    I think one reason for the web interface is that the device stays usable. If it would export a block device then it would need to unmount the file system on itself or at least block changes. If I remember correctly in the old days before MTP, all Android did this, making storage on the device itself unavailable while making it available via USB.
    - MayeulC 2y ago
      Yeah, that would be an issue with presenting the device as a block storage device. The web interface also has a couple of other advantages: the tablet simultaneously listens for ssh connections, and can be used over Wi-Fi, IIRC? Though it could also expose a "USB HUB" with both the network interface and block storage. I just wish we had a more ubiquitous "network file storage" protocol. The tablet itself could offer NFS, but mounting it under different operating systems would be a pain, requiring manual user intervention.

tecleandor 2y ago

But, afaik, they keep an index and some extra files in their own format to track them [0], so you can't "just" upload the files. You need a tool to do that additional work. I use RCU [1] for that. 0: https://remarkable.jms1.info/info/filesystem.html 1: https://www.davisr.me/projects/rcu/