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:( Capacity factor 50% means you only have batteries at half the availability... ie the batteries need to cool or recharge at fixed rates and you can't use them

:( Capacity factor 50% means you only have batteries at half the availability... ie the batteries need to cool or recharge at fixed rates and you can't use them as energy storage buffers in a continuous manner... as one would need for grid batteries to work effectively.

CyberDildonics 2y ago
you only have batteries at half the availability Says who? Also you're mixing up 'efficiency' which is what you said at first now with 'capacity factor' which is completely different. ie the batteries need to cool Where are you getting that from? or recharge at fixed rates Everything recharges at a 'fixed rate'. Lithium titanate batteries and some LiFe batteries like the Headway 38120 HP can charge at 10C, which means they can charge in around 6 minutes if you have the amps to put through them. as one would need for grid batteries to work effectively. Then how are people already using them as grid batteries? https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/energy-storage/chart-the-us-grid-battery-fleet-is-about-to-double-again https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/energy-storage/chart-th... What you are saying here doesn't follow what you've said before, doesn't make sense and isn't backed up by any evidence.
- omgJustTest 2y ago
  "Also you're mixing up 'efficiency' which is what you said at first now with 'capacity factor' which is completely different. " Effective utilization on the grid is affected by efficiency and capacity factor. One is "when the system is operable, how well does it perform". The other is "how often is the system operable". People generally colloquially use efficiency as effectiveness. However in real systems, that power peoples lives & livelihoods, effective systems are both efficient and available.
  - CyberDildonics 2y ago
    People generally colloquially use efficiency as effectiveness Not if they are talking about specific technical definitions. You should ask these hypothetical people if they know anything about batteries. However in real systems, that power peoples lives & livelihoods, effective systems are both efficient and available. I don't know what point this vague abstract description is supposed to make, but battery systems are literally working right now and making people money.

CyberDildonics 2y ago

you only have batteries at half the availability Says who? Also you're mixing up 'efficiency' which is what you said at first now with 'capacity factor' which is completely different. ie the batteries need to cool Where are you getting that from? or recharge at fixed rates Everything recharges at a 'fixed rate'. Lithium titanate batteries and some LiFe batteries like the Headway 38120 HP can charge at 10C, which means they can charge in around 6 minutes if you have the amps to put through them. as one would need for grid batteries to work effectively. Then how are people already using them as grid batteries? https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/energy-storage/chart-the-us-grid-battery-fleet-is-about-to-double-again https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/energy-storage/chart-th... What you are saying here doesn't follow what you've said before, doesn't make sense and isn't backed up by any evidence.

omgJustTest 2y ago
"Also you're mixing up 'efficiency' which is what you said at first now with 'capacity factor' which is completely different. " Effective utilization on the grid is affected by efficiency and capacity factor. One is "when the system is operable, how well does it perform". The other is "how often is the system operable". People generally colloquially use efficiency as effectiveness. However in real systems, that power peoples lives & livelihoods, effective systems are both efficient and available.
- CyberDildonics 2y ago
  People generally colloquially use efficiency as effectiveness Not if they are talking about specific technical definitions. You should ask these hypothetical people if they know anything about batteries. However in real systems, that power peoples lives & livelihoods, effective systems are both efficient and available. I don't know what point this vague abstract description is supposed to make, but battery systems are literally working right now and making people money.