> if you've decided for yourself that there is no god than you've decided that everything everywhere just spontaneously came into existence all on its own with

> if you've decided for yourself that there is no god than you've decided that everything everywhere just spontaneously came into existence all on its own with these very specific rules we know as physics and laws and whatnots No, I haven't - you're implying a binary choice where there's no such thing. There's an option to say that I don't know and perhaps I simply don't need to know that in order to have a satisfying life. The answer "everything just spontaneously appeared" is something I perceive as meaning-seeking, just like "a god created it all". To claim a god of some sort exists is the same as to claim a god doesn't, or reptilians do, or don't - empty claims based on beliefs. To use such beliefs - no matter their shape - in order to create meaning, is just attempting to deal with the idea that meaning is a man-made construct and it doesn't come from higher above.