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This is insane yet not shocking. I can’t imagine throwing away my entire career, and possibly more, over this. When I was stationed aboard the USS Mount Whitne

This is insane yet not shocking. I can’t imagine throwing away my entire career, and possibly more, over this. When I was stationed aboard the USS Mount Whitney, we had internet access at essentially all times. Yes it was painstakingly slow but you learned how to navigate that by using mobile sites, bookmarking exact pages, etc. If I wanted to find sports scores, it’d take a moment but I’d get them - heck, we had fantasy football leagues going using ESPN while at sea. The mobile pages of Facebook and email was enough to communicate with friends and family while movies and shows were passed around on external hard drives. I genuinely don’t understand what they gained from this to contemplate it yet alone act on it. My best guess is it was simply a chiefs mess with a ton of issues and who felt they were untouchable. But who knows. There will be a lot of training..

MarkMarine 2y ago
I've been stationed in a lot of places with no or little internet access, and it does suck. I'm sure it's worse for people that weren't used to circa 2003 internet... but the hubris here. Getting caught then just lying and saying the system was only used in port and HAVING IT RE-INSTALLED. I can't even imagine that. The fact that the rest of them just got NJP too... this reads to me like a command failure.
tzs 2y ago
> This is insane yet not shocking. I can’t imagine throwing away my entire career, and possibly more, over this. Has she thrown away her career? She was demoted from Senior Chief Petty Office to Chief Petty Officer, a demotion of one rank, which at least on paper doesn't seem to be too bad. Or will this being on her record mean that she won't get any future promotions, nor any of the more desirable assignments that a Chief Petter Officer might get, making it unlikely that she will reenlist whenever her current enlistment ends? Here's her bio [1]. I'm surprised the punishment wasn't much more severe. I could see being lenient if this was some relatively inexperienced sailor who had not been in the Navy a long time. But she's been in the Navy for just over 22 years, and based on this > Marrero first served at Submarine Group Eight, followed by U.S. Second Fleet as the afloat Flag communicator. She was Sailor of the Year at Combat Direction Systems Activity Dam Neck, completed two combat deployments with Mobile Communications Team attached to SEAL Team Two, and held multiple positions in the joint intelligence and operations departments at U.S. Southern Command. it looks like she had experience in communication and intelligence, so really should have known that unauthorized communication channels can be very risky. [1] https://www.surfpac.navy.mil/Leaders/Biography/Article/3152697/cmdcs-swexwiwaw-grisel-marrero/ https://www.surfpac.navy.mil/Leaders/Biography/Article/31526...
- Mainsail 2y ago
  I'm so far removed from the Navy at this point and don't know the details but a court martial won't include a separation board. That usually follows.

MarkMarine 2y ago

I've been stationed in a lot of places with no or little internet access, and it does suck. I'm sure it's worse for people that weren't used to circa 2003 internet... but the hubris here. Getting caught then just lying and saying the system was only used in port and HAVING IT RE-INSTALLED. I can't even imagine that. The fact that the rest of them just got NJP too... this reads to me like a command failure.

tzs 2y ago

> This is insane yet not shocking. I can’t imagine throwing away my entire career, and possibly more, over this. Has she thrown away her career? She was demoted from Senior Chief Petty Office to Chief Petty Officer, a demotion of one rank, which at least on paper doesn't seem to be too bad. Or will this being on her record mean that she won't get any future promotions, nor any of the more desirable assignments that a Chief Petter Officer might get, making it unlikely that she will reenlist whenever her current enlistment ends? Here's her bio [1]. I'm surprised the punishment wasn't much more severe. I could see being lenient if this was some relatively inexperienced sailor who had not been in the Navy a long time. But she's been in the Navy for just over 22 years, and based on this > Marrero first served at Submarine Group Eight, followed by U.S. Second Fleet as the afloat Flag communicator. She was Sailor of the Year at Combat Direction Systems Activity Dam Neck, completed two combat deployments with Mobile Communications Team attached to SEAL Team Two, and held multiple positions in the joint intelligence and operations departments at U.S. Southern Command. it looks like she had experience in communication and intelligence, so really should have known that unauthorized communication channels can be very risky. [1] https://www.surfpac.navy.mil/Leaders/Biography/Article/3152697/cmdcs-swexwiwaw-grisel-marrero/ https://www.surfpac.navy.mil/Leaders/Biography/Article/31526...

Mainsail 2y ago
I'm so far removed from the Navy at this point and don't know the details but a court martial won't include a separation board. That usually follows.