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Even if it is "just a fancy game", things like this can be very educational for upcoming generations of real city planner types. Get kids interested in those "

Even if it is "just a fancy game", things like this can be very educational for upcoming generations of real city planner types. Get kids interested in those "real problems" in healthy ways early in life, and give them tools / toys to explore their ideas with. :)

calvinmorrison 2y ago
the question is, are the precepts baked into the equations around traffic flow, urban design, etc, truly a reflection of reality. In SC3K, my low density residential housing was never as happy as high density, is that based on reality? My enactment of endless (in sc3k, check all boxes) series of ordinances produced the best result. Was the neighborhood around the casino really crime ridden or was that a trope? Are the models based on real life or are we using a game to pretend real life - like making a game about the wonders of say, collectivization, rather than maybe creating a simulator for how market trade reaallly works.
- icaruswept 2y ago
  Methodology here: https://github.com/team-watchdog/colombo-skylines/wiki/Introduction-and-methodology https://github.com/team-watchdog/colombo-skylines/wiki/Intro... We've also tweaked many of the assumptions (traffic flow, citizen lifecycles etc) https://github.com/team-watchdog/colombo-skylines/wiki/mod-configurations https://github.com/team-watchdog/colombo-skylines/wiki/mod-c... to get "somewhere in the vicinity" of how people actually behave - nursery school at 6 years old, high school after, then a job, maybe college, then employment and retirement at 65. In some of the work that I was involved in years back we were using CDR (call detail records) to estimate human mobility. See: https://medium.com/@yudhanjaya/how-people-come-to-nallur-7d3537796e5e https://medium.com/@yudhanjaya/how-people-come-to-nallur-7d3... We're certainly not that accurate, as the broader you go with simulation, the less deep you can get to. But as a teaching tool to help people think about the instersection of complex systems, it's decent. If I had more time I'd spent it making a new asset pack so those houses look more Sri Lankan.
- CSMastermind 2y ago
  I wouldn't make any serious policy decisions based on City Skylines, it's a resource management game not a serious simulation if that's what you're asking.
- jaza 2y ago
  In the case of Australia (my home), the casino itself is crime ridden (mainly the corporation behind the casino, and its behind-closed-doors relationships with organised crime and with government - but money laundering and other crimes also occur on the casino floor), while the neighbourhood around the casino is quite safe, peaceful, and upmarket.

calvinmorrison 2y ago

the question is, are the precepts baked into the equations around traffic flow, urban design, etc, truly a reflection of reality. In SC3K, my low density residential housing was never as happy as high density, is that based on reality? My enactment of endless (in sc3k, check all boxes) series of ordinances produced the best result. Was the neighborhood around the casino really crime ridden or was that a trope? Are the models based on real life or are we using a game to pretend real life - like making a game about the wonders of say, collectivization, rather than maybe creating a simulator for how market trade reaallly works.

icaruswept 2y ago
Methodology here: https://github.com/team-watchdog/colombo-skylines/wiki/Introduction-and-methodology https://github.com/team-watchdog/colombo-skylines/wiki/Intro... We've also tweaked many of the assumptions (traffic flow, citizen lifecycles etc) https://github.com/team-watchdog/colombo-skylines/wiki/mod-configurations https://github.com/team-watchdog/colombo-skylines/wiki/mod-c... to get "somewhere in the vicinity" of how people actually behave - nursery school at 6 years old, high school after, then a job, maybe college, then employment and retirement at 65. In some of the work that I was involved in years back we were using CDR (call detail records) to estimate human mobility. See: https://medium.com/@yudhanjaya/how-people-come-to-nallur-7d3537796e5e https://medium.com/@yudhanjaya/how-people-come-to-nallur-7d3... We're certainly not that accurate, as the broader you go with simulation, the less deep you can get to. But as a teaching tool to help people think about the instersection of complex systems, it's decent. If I had more time I'd spent it making a new asset pack so those houses look more Sri Lankan.
CSMastermind 2y ago
I wouldn't make any serious policy decisions based on City Skylines, it's a resource management game not a serious simulation if that's what you're asking.
jaza 2y ago
In the case of Australia (my home), the casino itself is crime ridden (mainly the corporation behind the casino, and its behind-closed-doors relationships with organised crime and with government - but money laundering and other crimes also occur on the casino floor), while the neighbourhood around the casino is quite safe, peaceful, and upmarket.