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That’s really my primary issue. Google indexing my content and directing traffic to my site is one thing. But unlike search indexing, there is no exchange of v
by haswell 2y ago
That’s really my primary issue. Google indexing my content and directing traffic to my site is one thing.
But unlike search indexing, there is no exchange of value when these LLMs are trained on my content. We all collectively get nothing for our work. It’s theft dressed up as business as usual. I’ll do whatever I reasonably can to avoid feeding the machine and hope some of the ongoing and inevitable legal fights will rein things in a bit.
- krmboya 2y agoAt least with the open source models we do get something back..
- haswell 2y agoThat’s debatable. The end result is still potentially making your own content obsolete/unnecessary and these “open weight” models are still trained without the permission of creators (there are no true open source models at this point). The people receiving the most value from these models are almost universally not the original content creators. The fact that I can use the model for my own purposes is potentially nice? But I’m not really interested in that and this doesn’t represent what I’d consider a reasonable exchange for using my work. It still drives people away from the source material.
- jph00 2y agoThis proposal isn’t really for training. It’s for end users who want to know what information to include when they’re using models.
- haswell 2y agoI get that. My point is that I’m uninterested in making it easier for LLM products to interact with my sites. I realize there may be products that may benefit from this. I was just agreeing with the sentiment that I want no part in it.
- 0x1064 2y agoThis is only true when a site's information is its only utility, such as for blogs. This is untrue when the information relates to a tool that would be consumed outside of the use of the model.
- haswell 2y agoI was primarily agreeing with the sentiment that making it easier for companies to consume my work is a hard sell. I realize not all sites fall into this category.