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The internet brought us an entirely new type of worldwide communication between people that wasn't possible before. Generative AI brought us cringe. It has exi

The internet brought us an entirely new type of worldwide communication between people that wasn't possible before. Generative AI brought us cringe. It has existed for like 5 years now and it's still a solution in desperate search of problems.

nequo 2y ago
To be fair, it brought not only cringe, also autocomplete on steroids. The architecture is good at applications that need pattern recognition.
- grishka 2y ago
  Well yes, neural networks are very good for pattern recognitions and data categorization tasks. Also for speech synthesis. I wasn't saying that this is a bad application of AI. I was talking about generative AI and LLMs specifically, the kind that takes prompt strings and spits out text/image/audio/whatever. > autocomplete on steroids Maybe if we manage to run LLMs locally, we can put one into a keyboard app and finally have a Russian touchscreen keyboard that doesn't make me want to yeet my phone at a wall for repeatedly failing to type the word in the correct grammatical form when I use gesture input. But somehow we aren't there yet. I guess ChatGPT is more important.
SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
Do you know how exactly your comment reads compared to “the internet is a fad” of the late 90s? I can select a PDF and ask for facts from it and page numbers where the information is. If you think that isn’t amazing I don’t know what your scale is. IDK what you’ve been doing with LLM models but it is a major shift even if you can’t see it.
- atq2119 2y ago
  The 90s internet comparison feels pretty apt to me. In both cases, it's a signal that a correction, maybe even a crash, is going to come due to massive over- and misinvestment. But like the 90s internet, it's likely going to be extremely transformative in the longer term. Some people focus on the short term part of this, others on the long term. Integrating both into a coherent perspective isn't that easy. It's going to be interesting for a while!
- grishka 2y ago
  Please give me some examples of real new capabilities that LLMs gave people. Something that they weren't able to do before, or something that was wildly impractical before LLMs appeared.
- consteval 2y ago
  > I can select a PDF and ask for facts from it and page numbers where the information is You can already do this, press ctrl-f and search. Boom, done. LLMs don't solve new problems much - rather they give you a new INTERFACE into a solution. Natural language. Before you'd use commands, specific software, processes, formats, configuration. Now you can use natural language (maybe sometimes). To me, this isn't a break through.

nequo 2y ago

To be fair, it brought not only cringe, also autocomplete on steroids. The architecture is good at applications that need pattern recognition.

grishka 2y ago
Well yes, neural networks are very good for pattern recognitions and data categorization tasks. Also for speech synthesis. I wasn't saying that this is a bad application of AI. I was talking about generative AI and LLMs specifically, the kind that takes prompt strings and spits out text/image/audio/whatever. > autocomplete on steroids Maybe if we manage to run LLMs locally, we can put one into a keyboard app and finally have a Russian touchscreen keyboard that doesn't make me want to yeet my phone at a wall for repeatedly failing to type the word in the correct grammatical form when I use gesture input. But somehow we aren't there yet. I guess ChatGPT is more important.

SV_BubbleTime 2y ago

Do you know how exactly your comment reads compared to “the internet is a fad” of the late 90s? I can select a PDF and ask for facts from it and page numbers where the information is. If you think that isn’t amazing I don’t know what your scale is. IDK what you’ve been doing with LLM models but it is a major shift even if you can’t see it.

atq2119 2y ago
The 90s internet comparison feels pretty apt to me. In both cases, it's a signal that a correction, maybe even a crash, is going to come due to massive over- and misinvestment. But like the 90s internet, it's likely going to be extremely transformative in the longer term. Some people focus on the short term part of this, others on the long term. Integrating both into a coherent perspective isn't that easy. It's going to be interesting for a while!
grishka 2y ago
Please give me some examples of real new capabilities that LLMs gave people. Something that they weren't able to do before, or something that was wildly impractical before LLMs appeared.
consteval 2y ago
> I can select a PDF and ask for facts from it and page numbers where the information is You can already do this, press ctrl-f and search. Boom, done. LLMs don't solve new problems much - rather they give you a new INTERFACE into a solution. Natural language. Before you'd use commands, specific software, processes, formats, configuration. Now you can use natural language (maybe sometimes). To me, this isn't a break through.