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Thank you for having the courage to share this story. The only time I've heard voices was also from LSD and I remain convinced that the voice was a higher power

Thank you for having the courage to share this story. The only time I've heard voices was also from LSD and I remain convinced that the voice was a higher power, regardless of if I choose to label that god. The world is not as the scientific rational model would have one believe. These substances show that indigenous cultures are thousands of years ahead of western society when it comes to understanding consciousness. For anyone on the outside reading this; I can recommend The BBC's LSD The Beyond Within as a starting point.

drdaeman 2y ago
> The world is not as the scientific rational model would have one believe. It's not the world that is not rational, it's humans' mind. Doesn't require higher powers, just a glitch in our own matrices.
- echelon_musk 2y ago
  > It's not the world that is not rational, it's humans' mind. As humans we experience the world through our six sense doors e.g. eyes, ears, tongue, nose, touch and mind. To try and separate the world from our minds is non trivial. It is our very mind that allows us to perceive the world. > Doesn't require higher powers, just a glitch in our own matrices. The matrices you describe are the sense doors. I didn't imply that anything necessitates a higher power. If you are happier to exclude the notion I described from your world view that's okay. I'm not forcing you to be open minded!
  - drdaeman 2y ago
    > The matrices you describe are the sense doors. I rather meant the logic gates ;) Or, more seriously, I was talking about the parts of the brain that handle language and reasoning, plus the memory bits. I’m surprised that you have added “mind” as a sensory system of some kind, next to actual senses (I don’t think it is a sense of any kind on its own). Not sure what you meant, sorry.
- cvwright 2y ago
  The world is not just stuff!
- salad-tycoon 2y ago
  "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." -Hamlet

drdaeman 2y ago

> The world is not as the scientific rational model would have one believe. It's not the world that is not rational, it's humans' mind. Doesn't require higher powers, just a glitch in our own matrices.

echelon_musk 2y ago
> It's not the world that is not rational, it's humans' mind. As humans we experience the world through our six sense doors e.g. eyes, ears, tongue, nose, touch and mind. To try and separate the world from our minds is non trivial. It is our very mind that allows us to perceive the world. > Doesn't require higher powers, just a glitch in our own matrices. The matrices you describe are the sense doors. I didn't imply that anything necessitates a higher power. If you are happier to exclude the notion I described from your world view that's okay. I'm not forcing you to be open minded!
- drdaeman 2y ago
  > The matrices you describe are the sense doors. I rather meant the logic gates ;) Or, more seriously, I was talking about the parts of the brain that handle language and reasoning, plus the memory bits. I’m surprised that you have added “mind” as a sensory system of some kind, next to actual senses (I don’t think it is a sense of any kind on its own). Not sure what you meant, sorry.
cvwright 2y ago
The world is not just stuff!
salad-tycoon 2y ago
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." -Hamlet